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It was last modified on: 2009-11-09
 By Charles  Gilman. Charles Gilman Modest Variants. Missing description (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Charles Gilman wrote on 2012-02-29 UTC
Voyager's long gone now. It was overwritten with the modest variants, and I even overwrote and renamed the master document on my own computer. You can see from the orioginal comments that it wasn't worth keeping. It can no more return than can the spacecraft after which it is named! So if anyone wants to hold on to any of the others that I'm considering overwriting (3 to the 5, Anglis Qi modified to add Cannons and Arrows, Crooked Board Chess, Emperor's Nobility 3d Latrunculi, Epping Forest Chess, Gateway Chess, Half Shoxiang, Intrusive Squares, Kamil Crater Chess, Maharajah's Well Chess, Partnership Mitregi, Pawn the Brain, Sextuple Besiege Wellisch, and Sultan's Elephant Chess - and I am now also reviewing Neutral Subject Chess), speak up now.

Thomas Becker wrote on 2012-02-27 UTC
Ok so where is Voyager now? Is it gone forever or does it still exist somewhere in the CV Pages? And if it has disappeared, can it still be put in here? I hope you bring it back if you do.

Charles Gilman wrote on 2009-11-11 UTC
The 'Voyager' label on the index pages is a glitch in the system, just as the 'Shogi 59' one for what is now Khis is. The Voyager variant has been withdrawn and the page recycled, but unfortunately the label is stuck. I had hoped that my update text (and the last comment on Voyager itself) made this clear.

Claudio Martins Jaguaribe wrote on 2009-11-10 UTC
Sorry Charles. I don't see the Voyager Chess does it have another name or the link is wrong? Hugs

Charles Gilman wrote on 2005-07-03 UTC
Thank you for these home truths about this variant, it did seem fanciful. It is true that, as Chess variants are an obscure area of interest, the friends who regularly meet me face to face do not play them, so I rely on analysis by other CVP members through comments on these pages. Representing such a complex game graphically is also a problem, particularly the need to diverge from my usual usage to cope with five kinds of one-step piece. My worst variant prior to Voyager, Great Herd, suffers in this respect too as the compounds' names are too similar in meaning to distinguish between using the ffen diagram images - which is why I have not updated it. I don't wish to leave a large number of poor variants on the site, so if the consensus is that this is a terrible variant I shall withdraw it and recycle the page - this kind of page appears to allow such techniques. Initially I shall just set most sections to blank, with the subtitle 'variant withdrawn' and then, if as is likely no-one demands reinstatement, I might use it to list some relatively simple variants to see whether any of them are worth expanding on.

Greg Strong wrote on 2005-07-01 UTC
<p>I would like to second Mr. Howe's comments. Mr. Gilman's numerous games seem hastily constructed and untested. For example, see the games <a href='/other.dir/gs_chess.html'>Goldchess and Silverchess</a>. One comment was posted on that game asking how it plays as described and if any game-scores exist that can be shared. That comment went unanswered; it appears that these games were completely untested.</p> <p>Additionally, I agree that Squirrls don't represent Gas Giants well. Furthermore, the Gilman games have large number of piece types, but with only a few images. He just uses sideways and upside-down icons rather than making new ones. This makes the games visually ugly as well as confusing.</p>

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