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Game Courier Tournament 2019. Chess Variant Tournament to be played on Game Courier.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Aurelian Florea wrote on Mon, Jul 1, 2019 11:05 AM EDT:

I see! I did not thought it should be 1 word :(!


Turnover. Three ring sizes fit into each other, combining and splitting into different pieces, sometimes taking over your opponent's.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Lúcio José Patrocínio Filho wrote on Mon, Jul 1, 2019 03:31 PM EDT:

Here is a match with Pawns handling turnovers on diagonal forward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyppzlkwjj4&feature=youtu.be


Game Courier Tournament 2019. Chess Variant Tournament to be played on Game Courier.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
A. M. DeWitt wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 10:24 AM EDT:

I have beeen assigned to the second round games, but none of them are showing up on My Games on Game Courier. I eventually found them using search filters, but when I tried to move, I got a error message saying that the file for the game could not be found on the website. This happened to me for all three games. Any help I can get would be appreciated.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 11:15 AM EDT:

This is strange.  The games do open for me but after a delay of about three seconds it gets redirected to a bad URL.  It looks like it is trying to jump to the board by putting #board on the URL, but it also changes it from /play/pbm to /pbm (which is not correct.)  I will try to figure out why it is doing this.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 11:31 AM EDT:

Ok, I've made some progress.  I found the bad reference to /pbm and replaced it with /play/pbm.  It is still refreshing the page every few seconds.  I'm not sure why it is doing that but at least it is going to the correct page.  The refresh is probably connected to the other issue.  When I try to bring up your games, I get:

It is not Adam DeWitt's turn to move in any game. This page will refresh and beep when it is Adam DeWitt's turn in at least one game.

I have to figure out why it thinks it isn't your move.  I think the page is getting reloaded because it thinks the game state has changed so something is wacky with the state.  I'll rummage around in SQL and see if I see anything.  If not, I'll just delete and recreate these games.


💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 11:38 AM EDT:

Got it.  When I created the games, I used ChessShogi as your ID when it should be all lower-case.  Apparently in some places in the code it is case sensitive and in others it is not.  I will look into preventing this from happening again, but these games should be good for now.  It appears to have fixed the refresh issue also.


StrataChess v1.0. separate Strategic and Tactical gameplay. 2-6 players. Element of Chance. Terrain. Build your own armies.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 12:52 PM EDT:

I have posted and cleaned up the "Setup" section, adding a table where I think it was intended and provided other HTML formatting.  I will take a stab at other sections later.

I am posting this mostly because of the amount of work that went into it.  I think it is a stretch to call this a chess variant, so I am not sure it really blongs.  I'm happy to hear thoughts from other members.


Turnover. Three ring sizes fit into each other, combining and splitting into different pieces, sometimes taking over your opponent's.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Lúcio José Patrocínio Filho wrote on Thu, Jul 4, 2019 02:14 PM EDT:

I played a few matches with the PawnFreetoCombine version and I have to be honest, I can not play the previous version again. Much more intuitive and uncomplicated, definitely elegant and sincere. I will change this rule soon.


Colossus. 10x10 chess with 4 Rooks, 4 Knights, 4 Bishops, 10 Pawns, 1 Queen and 1 King![All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Jul 5, 2019 08:32 PM EDT:

Hi Carlos,

Can you try your move again?  Hopefully I've fixed it.

Thanks!


Carlos Cetina wrote on Fri, Jul 5, 2019 09:01 PM EDT:

Hi Greg,

I could already make the move.

Thank you very much!


StrataChess v1.0. separate Strategic and Tactical gameplay. 2-6 players. Element of Chance. Terrain. Build your own armies.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Fri, Jul 5, 2019 09:05 PM EDT:

I agree that this is getting pretty far from chess.  It has the same wargame/chess crossover feel of some other games here, but this is probably further out.  But, I've always thought this site should be pretty inclusive.  And the tactical portion of this game is fairly chesslike (in fact, it almost would work as a standalone variant).

I'll work on some more formatting here in a minute.

I haven't read all of the details, so maybe I've missed it, but: what does the terrain "strengthening" and "weakening" actually do?  How are they located?
Edit: Oh, I see, "strengthen" and "weaken" are not separate effects, just a note about how the terrain affects pieces differently.

(And I might as well mention again that I don't particularly like publishing variants without the inventors' real names, but that ship has sailed.)


Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Jul 5, 2019 09:56 PM EDT:

(And I might as well mention again that I don't particularly like publishing variants without the inventors' real names, but that ship has sailed.)

I am in agreement.  I don't really like it, although it is not like we can really verify identity anyway.  On the other hand, I think we have complete discretion to publish or not as we see fit.  This is one more factor we can weigh when deciding whether to publish.  And there are cases where I am fine with it.  For example, I published Shako_Balbo from wtdr2.  Although he chooses to be anonymous, he is a valuable member of the community who created an excellent game.  So I think it is a case-by-case call.  Does the submitter have a history here?  Does the game seem worthwhile?  StrataChess is borderline in a couple of regards, but he has clearly put a lot of work into it.  I would say it goes into a "probationary" period.  If questions are answered, and he works with us to help clean it up, it stays.


Wa Shogi. Game with many different rather weak pieces, with or without drops. (11x11, Cells: 121) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
KelvinFox wrote on Sat, Jul 6, 2019 07:17 PM EDT:

One of the weird things about this game is the fact that you can only have 2 Heavenly Horses at max, even though you need 4 to cover the whole board, probably there is some compensation for this. I also investigated the camel variant of it, this piece can only reach 1/6th of the board.


📝H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 03:16 AM EDT:

Well, that we today play this game both with and without drops is only out of ignorance. At the time this game was invented the rules were of course known, and nothing would have been optional about them. So it would either have been one or the other always. Based on the power of the pieces I am now convinced that the original rules would have included piece drops. And with piece drops there is no such thing as (meta-)color binding; any piece can get captured, and re-appear on any color it wants. Also note that the Heavenly Horse is a promoted piece. Because of the promotion zone being 3 ranks deep and the way the Liberated Horse moves you can promote on 3 of the 4 possible meta-colors.


Omnia Nihilo wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 06:42 AM EDT:

The power of the pieces doesn't mean much. Look at the larger variants or even Sho Shogi which is just regular Shogi with a drunk elephant and no drops. Weak pieces doesn't and didn't necessarily imply that drops were used. 


Hunterbeest. Large variant with one each of distinctive Nimrod pieces, and of similar set of oblique pieces. (11x10, Cells: 110) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
KelvinFox wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 10:00 AM EDT:

This looks like a somewhat playable variant, only the weird board size is killing it

Also, the movement diagrams are broken

StrataChess v1.0. separate Strategic and Tactical gameplay. 2-6 players. Element of Chance. Terrain. Build your own armies.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 12:13 PM EDT:

(Er, I hadn't thought about how "that ship has sailed" would be interpreted:  I hadn't meant it for this variant, as a criticism of Greg for publishing it; rather, I was trying to indicate the last few years during which a few new anonymous inventors have had material published here.  And as Greg noted, this does include great community members like wtdr2, so I don't hold this position firmly; I would just like to encourage inventors to attach their names to their variants.)


Hunterbeest. Large variant with one each of distinctive Nimrod pieces, and of similar set of oblique pieces. (11x10, Cells: 110) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 12:28 PM EDT:

The diagrams no longer work as intended because of a change in the diagram designer:
https://www.chessvariants.com/index/listcomments.php?id=36723

I'll make the necessary changes when I have a chance.

Edit: done, although using the !-markers rather than the ./#-markers.


Chess variant engines and CECP (XBoard) protocol[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
Greg Strong wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 03:32 PM EDT:

I have had some more time to test.  This is a really an excellent CwDA engine.  I think I have found another bug though.  In one game, it insisted ChessV made an illegal move when the move was fine.  In that game, ChessV was white playing the nutters and KS was black playing the rookies.  KS promoted a pawn on g1 and chose to promote to a colonel.  ChessV then moved the king to g4 and KS called this an illegal move, presumably thinking that its colonel on g1 attacked it.

So I think the issue is that when KS plays black and promotes a pawn to a piece from white's army, it thinks that the piece moves "forward" as a white piece instead of as a black piece.

Also, good catch about the memory usage.  ChessV does not yet offer an xboard engine's configuration options but as a stop-gap I have added settings for the generic "memory" and "cores" options and it will supply them to xboard engines that support those featuers.


Diagram Designer. Lets you display diagrams without uploading any graphics.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Ben Reiniger wrote on Sun, Jul 7, 2019 11:23 PM EDT:

The change of interpretation of the period from movement-marker to single empty square has affected a few pages.  (The changes were documented in this comment thread; a bug report was made at https://www.chessvariants.com/index/listcomments.php?id=37820 .) 

I have added the new functionality's description to the introduction here.

I've identified 25 affected pages, all but one of them by Charles Gilman.  (I only ran the search on member-submitted pages' Pieces section.  There were 4 false positives in the regex [from another author], so perhaps not all of these actually have problems.  The other affected page is an old never-published submission.)

ItemID    
MSaltorth-hex-chess    
MSnearlydouble-wildebeest    
MSnimrod-chess    
MSbachelor-nimrod    
MSman-and-beast-01-constitutional-characters    
MSman-and-beast-03-from-ungulates-outward    
MSman-and-beast-04-generalised-generals    
MSman-and-beast-06-the-heavy-brigade    
MShunterbeest    
MSman-and-beast-07-when-beasts-collide    
MSman-and-beast-08-diverse-directions    
MSman-and-beast-09-mighty-like-a-rose    
MSman-and-beast-11-long-nosed-generals    
MSman-and-beast-12-alternative-fronts    
MSman-and-beast-13-straight-and-crooked-moving    
MSman-and-beast-14-oddly-oblique    
MSman-and-beast-15-strengthened-across-the-board    
MSman-and-beast-19-the-vice-squad    
MSwestfield-chess    
MSman-and-beast-21-lords-high-everything-else    
MSfragnurasian-qi    
MSbachelor-hunterbeest    
MSaltorth-with-further-piece-types    
MSknavish-chess    

There might be a regex solution to fixing all of these pages, which seems superior to doing them by hand or splitting off a version of this script for the old period-markers, but I don't want to accidentally break anything more.  I think the periods that need to be replaced can be described as those following `drawdiagram.php`...`code=`, before any closing `>` or argument-separating `&`.  I'll think/look at it more later, but comments are eagerly solicited.


Chess variant engines and CECP (XBoard) protocol[Subject Thread] [Add Response]
H. G. Muller wrote on Mon, Jul 8, 2019 02:56 AM EDT:

Your diagnosis is entirely correct. Because KingSlayer was originally designed with only (2x) 7 piece types, it initializes the move-generator data for the four variable types from a larger list of all types depending on the army choice. But when 'Traitor promotion' is set it initializes the 5th variable type as a copy of the 4th, in the table for the opponent. But I forgot to flip the orientation. I will add a note to this posting when I have fixed it.

Good that ChessV now gives a memory command. I already had made KingSlayer a bit more robust to not receiving one, by having it interpret memory size 0 as 128KB and launching it with that size, and then check the memory size at the start of every search to see if it is still at 0, and allocating 64MB if it is. But relying on default hash sizes is likely to give rise to unfair use of resources.

[Edit] OK, I uploaded a version (0.1, same link) where the traitor orientation should be fixed. This was a bit tricky, as the initialization also collects all sliding directions of an army, to know from which directions it should expect discovered checks.


Rhino. A set of pieces which combine the movements of the Mao with that of the Wazir.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
KelvinFox wrote on Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:51 AM EDT:

A crooked wazir rhinoA weird piece idea where all wazir movements are crooked


Diagram Designer. Lets you display diagrams without uploading any graphics.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Greg Strong wrote on Tue, Jul 9, 2019 07:55 PM EDT:

Good job tracking down those pages!  Fortunately not too bad.  Gilman has over 250 pages so I was afraid it could be much worse...

Given the scope, I don't mind taking it on, probably manually.  I'll probably take me a couple weeks to get through them but they've been broken for a while so I don't think fixing them is super urgent, so long as it gets accomplished.


StrataChess v1.0. separate Strategic and Tactical gameplay. 2-6 players. Element of Chance. Terrain. Build your own armies.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Prussia General wrote on Tue, Jul 9, 2019 11:26 PM EDT:

I cleaned up the "RULES" section a bit to make it easier to read. Next time I'll upload some pictures. 


Rhino. A set of pieces which combine the movements of the Mao with that of the Wazir.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Aurelian Florea wrote on Wed, Jul 10, 2019 02:02 AM EDT:

So this is supposed to be a rhino-mirror rhino alternating?


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