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Contest to design a chess variant on 44 squares. Our annual N-squares chess variant design competition.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Jared McComb wrote on Mon, Nov 24, 2003 01:25 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
When will last year's winners get their prizes?  Or did I miss something?

--Jared

David Howe wrote on Tue, Nov 25, 2003 01:34 PM UTC:
They'll get their prizes when I get off my lazy rear end and send them out! :)

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Nov 27, 2003 02:28 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
I am preparing two games for the contest, but the ZRF's are not ready yet.
May be in two or three weeks, more or less. I´ll send my games once I have
finished the ZRF´s and tested the games, making the final adjusts and
re-testing, if necessary.
The prizes?. Well, if someone offers prizes, it is expected that winners
can get the prizes, but I have not read WHEN.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Fri, Mar 5, 2004 05:33 AM UTC:
Have anyone noted that Symmetron!44 (Fourrière-Lavieri) is competing?. I can´t say it is going to win (other games in the contest are very good), but I think it is not so bad for being absolutely ignored. Please, actualize this page.

Peter Aronson wrote on Fri, Mar 5, 2004 05:41 AM UTC:
Has anyone e-mailed Hans (who is, after all, the first round judge and the person who maintains this page) that Symmetron!44 is a competing entry?

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 08:16 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
I´m expecting more games in competence (are Horus and Prisoneer Scape in?). the deadline is April 21. Designers, send your contributions!

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 08:20 PM UTC:
Are Horus and Prisoner´s Escape competing?. If so, these games are not still in the list...

Peter Aronson wrote on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 08:58 PM UTC:
Yes, <u>Prisoner's Escape</u> and <u>Horus</u> are competing entries. Strange, I e-mailed Hans about it a few weeks ago. Also, any games sent in before the deadline are considered in time, even if they haven't been put up yet.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Thu, Apr 15, 2004 12:42 PM UTC:
I didn't receive the emails on these new entries. I've added them now...

Jared McComb wrote on Fri, Apr 16, 2004 01:47 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
You guys got my entries (and non-entry), right?

Peter Aronson wrote on Fri, Apr 16, 2004 03:26 PM UTC:
We got them Jared. They'll get up someday soon.

Doug Chatham wrote on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 01:56 PM UTC:
I wonder why there are so few entries for this contest.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 03:27 PM UTC:
There are several submissions that still must be added to the contest page. Please, have a little patience. <p> However, our mailbox had a problem, as it run out of space. Please look at the size of the files you are sending. We received two files of over 1 megabyte size, by two different submitters. Files of this size cannot be put on the website: it uses too much of our webspace and most readers will not be able to download them. (I still have internet connection with a normal telephone, and there are many more such people on this world!) <p> In case you got an error message when submitting your game, please send it again, but now to the email address of me you can find at <a href='www.cs.uu.nl/staff/hansb.html'> www.cs.uu.nl/staff/hansb.html </a>. <p> If you missed the deadline because of such a problem, send the game a.s.a.p. to us; we'll accept such entries for a number a days.

Peter Aronson wrote on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 08:02 PM UTC:
We have yet unposted submissions from the following people at the very least: <ul><p> <li> David Jagger <li> Jeff Rients <li> Erez Schatz <li> Doug Chatham <li> Roberto Lavieri <li> Jared McComb </ul><p> Sitting in the queue at the general pool at chessvariants.com -- this does not count entries that may have been sent to individual editors or entries that did not indicate that they were 44-square contest entries on their subject line (they are not required to -- but that's how I just compiled my list). <p> We will be working on them as time permits, but we, the editors, all have busy lives away from the CVP, and time is often at a premium. <p> Pete, you might want to send yours in again just to be on the safe side.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Apr 21, 2004 02:34 AM UTC:
I think I'll skip the contest this year. I haven't had any fresh game ideas suited for a small board, and I still have plenty of other things to work on.

Peter Leyva wrote on Wed, Apr 21, 2004 07:02 PM UTC:
Dear Editors,

Should I send you another copy of my submission?  I only ask, because most
of my day I'm at work, and I don't get home until a little before
midnight.  Sorry, to be a pest, I understand you too are busy with work.
Thank you gentlemen.

Sincerely Peter Leyva

Peter Aronson wrote on Wed, Apr 21, 2004 09:11 PM UTC:
Peter, I still don't see anything -- where exactly are you sending it? Mind you, if you are sending it to a specific editor, it will be forwarded to their home e-mail address. Have you tried [email protected]? We seem to be receiving e-mail from other people. Did it perhaps have very large attachments?

Jared McComb wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 12:22 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Can entrants vote for their own games in the second round? I would assume not, but I may be wrong.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 01:24 AM UTC:
Epsilon Eridani, a game played on a 44 squares board that I sent a few days
ago, is  a NON-competing entry to the Contest. The main reason is because
I have Hexetera competing and Antoine and me are the authors of 
Symmetron!44. Epsilon Eridani is based basically on Achernar, with some
differences (Achernar is the name of the blue star Alpha of Eridani,
Epsilon Eridani is a yellow star in the same constellation. Epsilon
Eridani is an interesting star, it is almost sure that at least one planet
orbits the star), although the game play is very different. The board size
adds clarity to the game, so calculations are easy, this is not the case
in Achernar. Nevertheless, the E.E. game play is nice and very
interesting, at least I think so, and I hope that the community can enjoy
this out-of-competence game.

Peter Leyva wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 06:21 AM UTC:
Pete,

I'll send it to you.  I have been sending it to
[email protected].  I don't believe it has a big attachment, just
simple instructions.

Sincerely Pete

Peter Leyva wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 06:27 AM UTC:
Pete, 

I just sent it to you, did you receive it?


Peter Leyva

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 01:29 PM UTC:
Thanks, Mike!. Epsilon Eridani is a non-competing entry.

Peter Leyva wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2004 03:58 PM UTC:
Peter,

Thank you, for your time and help.  I got my submission to David Howe.

Sincerely Pete Leyva

Peter Leyva wrote on Sun, Apr 25, 2004 06:36 AM UTC:
Hi David H. ,

Have you currently had a chance to go over my submission for the 44 square
contest.


Pete Leyva

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Fri, Apr 30, 2004 08:16 PM UTC:
Apart from my non-competing entry, Epsilon Eridani, I think there are some other entries that have not been posted yet, isn´t it ?

Doug Chatham wrote on Sat, May 1, 2004 04:56 PM UTC:
Yes, not all competing entries have been posted yet.

David Short wrote on Tue, May 4, 2004 12:58 AM UTC:
I hope you will allow my entry into the contest, even though technically
I submitted it about a week after the posted deadline. Since you haven't
finished posting the other entries, polling isn't going to be able to
start on time anyway, so what harm does it do to let mine in right
under the wire?

Erez Schatz wrote on Thu, May 6, 2004 07:38 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
I want to thank Jeff Rients for making the OblongChess44 PBM preset. It's
quite unnerving now that I have two variants in the main category, but I
wish them both well.

When can we start voting, btw?

Anonymous wrote on Sat, May 8, 2004 06:46 PM UTC:
Anyone want to try a 45-<b>piece</b> variant contest next year?

Jeff Rients wrote on Sun, May 9, 2004 12:14 AM UTC:
45 pieces sounds like an interesting challenge!

Jared McComb wrote on Sun, May 9, 2004 01:21 AM UTC:
It sounds interessting, except that *some* of us have already started working on 45-space variants! *growls*

Jeff Rients wrote on Sun, May 9, 2004 02:05 AM UTC:
No reason why we couldn't do both. To keep roughly the same number of entries you could pare back each category (45-square and 45-piece) to just one entry per inventor.

Mark Thompson wrote on Sun, May 9, 2004 02:15 AM UTC:
Would that be 45 pieces per army, or 45 pieces among all armies?

Jeff Rients wrote on Sun, May 9, 2004 12:27 PM UTC:
I don't know the original intent of the suggestion, but I was thinking 45 pieces total. That odd 45th piece is where meat of the challenge would lie, I think.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Mon, May 10, 2004 03:12 PM UTC:
Here is the first, non competing entry for the 45 pieces contest: queenless but further standard three player chess...

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Mon, May 10, 2004 03:12 PM UTC:
Should we accept an entry that was a few days late?

   Hans

Jeff Rients wrote on Mon, May 10, 2004 03:33 PM UTC:
Yes, please accept a late entry.

(Last night while engaged in a lengthy car drive I came up with an idea
for a 45 piece variant that is a combination of Hnefatafl and Chaturanga.)

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Mon, May 10, 2004 03:34 PM UTC:
Was Epsilon Eridani received?. This game has not been posted yet, it is a non-competing entry, but it is good if it is included, I like it. I think that other games have not been posted, too. (Peter Leyva´s games?, and pehaps other games sent by other people, I don´t know)

Peter Aronson wrote on Mon, May 10, 2004 09:51 PM UTC:
Roberto, we've received <u>Epsilon Eridani</u>, but as you guessed, we've been trying to get everything done for the competing entries first.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Tue, May 11, 2004 12:37 AM UTC:
It exists a Preset for Symmetron!44, as you can see in the game Page, the Preset was made by Antoine Fouuriere, and we have used it in an interesting game test. Nevertheless, it does not appear in the list of Games in Courier. Why?. Please, add this Preset to the list of available games in the Courier system

Doug Chatham wrote on Tue, May 11, 2004 06:56 PM UTC:
Hans, <p>'standard three-player chess'? Which variant is that?

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Wed, May 12, 2004 11:52 AM UTC:
Like on <a href='http://www.chessvariants.com/multiplayer.dir/3pl2.html'>http://www.chessvariants.com/multiplayer.dir/3pl2.html</a>. That type of three player chess variant is probably more than a century old ... <p> We may need another webpage on this variant, with some diving into the ECV first...

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Wed, May 12, 2004 11:55 AM UTC:
One to go: Mini Slanted Escalator Chess by David Short needs a webpage. If we have that, I think that we have all variants, except for some non-competing ones. <p> I'll wait till the end of May to see what variants can go to the main category, before starting the official voting.

Doug Chatham wrote on Thu, May 13, 2004 11:40 AM UTC:
Hans, <p>What's happened to my entry: Los Alamos Extinction Chess With Bunkers?

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Thu, May 13, 2004 11:42 AM UTC:
Doug,

I assume this was lost due to a mailing problem. There were a few files
that didn't arrive at a certain time...

Please, send the file again.

 Hans

Peter Aronson wrote on Fri, May 14, 2004 09:49 PM UTC:
Hans, <p> <u>Mini Slanted Escalator Chess</u> now has a ZRF, and <u>PiRaTeKnIcS</u> now has a preset, and thus can be moved into the main category.

Antoine Fourrière wrote on Sat, May 15, 2004 09:14 AM UTC:
Hans, <p><u>Slide Chess</u> now has a zrf and can be moved to the main category. <br><u>Epsilon Eridani</u> has been added as a non-competing entry.

Ken Franklin wrote on Mon, May 17, 2004 03:29 PM UTC:
I don't know what the wide-spread tardiness is about!  The 44 sq-contest
was open for over 4+ months, (after being announced well in advance).  A
couple of just-late entries the week after ... yeah fine - of course,
slip
them in.

BUT now it's a whole month past the original due date.  Should a REVISED
firm (tough, no exceptions) CUTOFF and a NEW RESTART VOTING period date
to
follow be set?

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Tue, May 18, 2004 06:56 AM UTC:
As there were many submissions sent in around April 21, it took a while before we managed to make a webpage of each of these. This now has done. To give all games a fair chance of getting to the first category, I wait till May 31, 2004 for assigning each game its definitive category. A two month voting period then starts June 1.

Jared McComb wrote on Tue, May 18, 2004 05:55 PM UTC:
If Regenbogen ends up being the only Extra entry, will it win by default or will it be disqualified and the category abandoned?

Jeff Rients wrote on Tue, May 18, 2004 06:43 PM UTC:
<A href='http://www.chessvariants.com/44.dir/chogo.html'>Chogo-44</a> now has a preset and can be moved to the main category.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Wed, May 19, 2004 07:02 AM UTC:
If there is only one, and also if there are two entries in the extra category, the judge (that is me) can decide to award no prize in this category. <p> It is, by the way, still possible that someone makes something for regenbogen (a preset?) such that that game is also moved from extra to regular category.

Jared McComb wrote on Wed, May 19, 2004 06:47 PM UTC:
'If there is only one, and also if there are two entries in the extra
category, the judge (that is me) can decide to award no prize in this
category.'

Not even a li'l coffee mug for not following the crowd? ;)

In all honesty, I would think that this decision would not be fair, as it
would undercut the work I did on the game.  I started designing this game
months before the contest, and I would think that it should be possible
for that work to pay off somehow, even if it is only a coffee mug.  (Of
course, if it is moved to the main category, I won't have any reason to
complain, but I doubt that a preset could be easily constructed, and I am
incapable of programming a computer version myself, for ZoG or
otherwise.)

Just my 2 cents.  I'll shut up now.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Fri, May 21, 2004 08:42 AM UTC:
A decision to not award a prize would be taken <em>after</em> looking at the (if only few) submissions to the extra category. It depends on the quality of the games in the extra category, in particular, the way the judge (I) would think of this quality. <p> Regards, Hans

Joao Neto wrote on Fri, May 21, 2004 12:26 PM UTC:
At the end of the month, can you distribute the ZRFs for all Hans44 games in one zip file? Thanks!

Peter Aronson wrote on Sat, May 22, 2004 07:10 PM UTC:
Monkey King Chess has a preset now, and can be moved to the general category. That's the last one!

Jeff Rients wrote on Mon, May 31, 2004 02:12 PM UTC:
If at all possible, could some kindly editor please move Monkey King Chess and Canyon Chess to the Competing Entry list in time for the opening of voting tomorrow? Voting is opening tomorrow, right?

Jared McComb wrote on Wed, Jul 7, 2004 10:06 PM UTC:
Did you guys get my votes? I sent them in awhile ago.

Doug Chatham wrote on Mon, Aug 16, 2004 10:38 PM UTC:
So, who are the finalists?

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 12:36 AM UTC:
The voting dates must be updated. Are the first results available?. When starts the second voting round? (it seems it is not August 15, as previously stablished). If there are some news, it is not available yet, though. Please clarify.

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 12:57 PM UTC:Poor ★
Apologies. Just a few days. The specific voting system causes more problems than I thought.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Wed, Sep 1, 2004 12:36 AM UTC:
Hans,

This site has PHP scripts I wrote for conducting an automated Condorcet
poll. The files are in /public_html/cgi-bin/rankedpoll/. The main file to
include is runpoll.php. It includes extensive comments documenting how to
use it. If you want to enforce some rules it wasn't designed to handle,
such as a contestant not voting for his own game, then you could use it at
the end to calculate the results, entering the results in yourself instead
of using it to also collect the votes.

Erez Schatz wrote on Fri, Oct 8, 2004 09:03 AM UTC:
So far I've not been able to send my votes to either [email protected], or [email protected], nor any other variation on the theme.

Jeff Rients wrote on Sat, Oct 16, 2004 09:27 PM UTC:
I've had the same problem as Erez in mailing my votes.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Oct 16, 2004 10:39 PM UTC:
I've added a votes44 address for our new domain. It will forward email to Hans. The form above will send you to it even though it uses .com in the text. Tests I just ran seem to indicate that chessvariants.com addresses no longer work. Although we have both domains, our control panel only allows the creation of chessvariants.org addresses.

Jeff Rients wrote on Wed, Nov 3, 2004 01:28 PM UTC:
What's the status of the contest? Is voting closed? Have prizes been announced?

Peter Aronson wrote on Wed, Nov 3, 2004 06:22 PM UTC:
It'll get done when the editors in charge of this particular contest have the time. Alas, many of us don't have a lot. <p> On a different topic, the [email protected] (well, .org really) e-mail button does <strong>not</strong> currently seem to send the e-mail to anywhere useful. Try one of the standard feedback buttons instead.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Wed, Nov 3, 2004 10:56 PM UTC:
I´m not sure if my votes have been received by anyone. Other people may feel the same. Any information about it?

Peter Aronson wrote on Thu, Nov 4, 2004 09:08 PM UTC:
2nd round votes have been received from at least the following people (this will not count votes e-mailed directly to Hans): <ul> <p><li> Peter Aronson <p><li> Gary Gifford <p><li> Ken Franklin <p><li> Roberto Lavieri <p><li> Joao Neto <p><li> David Jagger </ul><p> If you have sent votes in for the 2nd round, but are not listed here you might want to send them in again, noting that you had sent them earlier.

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Wed, Nov 17, 2004 10:07 PM UTC:
News?

Hans Bodlaender wrote on Wed, Dec 8, 2004 12:44 PM UTC:
The winners are finally known. My apologies for the very long delay. A more formal announcement (including the second category) will follow, but I will announce the winners here first: <p> <ol> <li>Prisoners escape <li>Space warp <li>Slide chess <li>Horus </ol> The distance between numbers 1 and 2 was small, and the distance between numbers 3 and 4 was small.

Jeff Rients wrote on Thu, Dec 9, 2004 03:01 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Congratulations to Mr. Aronson!

Roberto Lavieri wrote on Thu, Dec 9, 2004 08:06 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Congratulations, Peter!. it is a good game!.

Peter Aronson wrote on Thu, Dec 9, 2004 08:15 PM UTC:
There were a lot of good games, really. It is a pity some of them were disqualified because their authors forgot to vote. But really, everyone who contributed has good reason to be pleased with what they created.

Erez Schatz wrote on Sun, Dec 12, 2004 01:28 PM UTC:
Congratulations to the winners. This had been a fun competition.
Can you elaborate on who got disqualified? There was a bit of trouble with
the mail previously, and could be that there are those who sent their votes
but didn't get through.

Peter Aronson wrote on Mon, Dec 13, 2004 06:18 AM UTC:
Erez, All of the disqualifications occured in the first round, and I don't believe any of the disqualified entries authors have been visible around the site in that time or since.

Jared McComb wrote on Mon, Dec 13, 2004 09:35 PM UTC:
All the same, it would be nice to see who did.  If you don't wish to
disclose the information, though, why not just come out and say so?

I would assume BWII wasn't disqualified and was in fact not voted for
well, due to a bad case of rehash disease.  I honestly don't know what
came over me.

Peter Aronson wrote on Mon, Dec 13, 2004 09:46 PM UTC:
Well, <strong>I</strong> wouldn't want to say because I wasn't running the contest, Hans was, and thus it would be Hans' decision. Also, since I only saw the correspondence that went through the main account, as opposed to being e-mailed directly to Hans, I don't really know exactly who might have been eliminated due to not voting, however I do know that there were very likely far less votes cast than designs submitted.

Erez Schatz wrote on Fri, Dec 17, 2004 09:52 AM UTC:
I'll leave the disqualified issue alone then :)

I have to say that although the finalists and the winners very much
reflect my votes in the contest, I'm very disappointed that Inside-out
chess didn't get more votes and that Hole Chess wasn't named among the
winners. I found both games to be quite entertaining in playtesting. I
have also played Hole Chess a couple of times on the Game Courier since my
original votes and it is still quite enjoyable.

Ken Franklin wrote on Sat, Dec 18, 2004 06:14 AM UTC:
So, if I (Leap Chess) failed to make the top eight out of 20 (2nd round),
and there were multiple disqualified entries for non-voting, and also
rehashed pre-existing variants adapted for 44 squares, ...
Let's just move ahead to 2005.

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