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H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Jan 1, 2023 09:21 AM UTC in reply to Greg Strong from 12:58 AM:

So any posting of new default color schemes is completely inappropriate without first establishing a DEFINITION OF PROBLEM to be solved and a PROCESS for how changes are to be submitted and results are to be measured.

Well, since it seems that I am the one who raised this issue, let me formulate a formal definition of the problem:

I think the yellow/green/blue board colors that are the defaults of the Diagram Designer, although excellently suited for the main diagram in an article, are are to 'loud' for embedded diagrams in a comment (for which my imagined use case would be mainly to illustrate issues in specific positions). With this I mean they would attract more visual attention than they deserve, and thus would become a distraction.

Since we are creating a new feature here for general use, it seemed wise to give its design some serious thought rather than just slamming something together that happened to work. Color schemes were one of the aspects I identified as possible target for optimization. Note that in the context of the 'instant diagram' people are much less likely to customize it than when they use the DD through the design interface in its article, so defaults become a more important issue.

I would prefer somewhat softer colors for the board.

BTW, I consider the khaki/smoke theme presented in Fergus' latest posting excellent.

As to the process: it seems to me this is well under way. Everything said so far has been only a proposal, and all editors that have an opinion on this matter can chime in. I can add that w.r.t. other proposals I have made for improvement of this website, there has been disappointingly little interest from other editors in those.

I will anticipate the response: these changes are forward-only changes and have no effect on the existing content.  Ok, while there is truth to that, the argument is insufficient.  The only reason this forum has any value, (the only reason people are reading it), is because of the established content.  And it only continues because a community drives it forwards.  Almost no one would be here if it wasn't for our foundation.  We stand on the shoulders of giants.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Why would creating new features diminish the value of this website? Why would the fact that designing it in a certain way would be the best way to do it be an 'insufficient argument'? I would say it is the only argument.


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