Enter Your Reply The Comment You're Replying To Joe Joyce wrote on Thu, Jan 17, 2008 04:37 AM UTC:Lol, George! I must be expiating my sins from a past life... a little exaggeration here? 'One citation'! 'What is Alice Modern Shatranj?' Good Lord! Not even I could be that bad, George. So I started checking my citations... ['Aikin's Chesseract, Capa's, Freeling's Grand, Duniho's Fusion, Jagger's PiRaTeKnIkS, Gilman's 'unnamed game', and others, I realized I left one out, Abbott's Ultima, for SpaceWar, so I corrected that. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I could indeed put more citations into my work. For example, I could have mentioned Betza's name specifically in CwDA: the Shatranjian Shooters, that Abdul-Rahman Sibahi and I did, but I felt that the 'CwDA' as the first word [so to speak] in the name of the game was ample, if shorthand, info on where the game's origins were. As far as Alice Modern Shatranj, following is the description copied from the CVPages pointer to the zrf for the ShortRange Project. A brief note on the zrfs - they were done by my partner on the project, Christine Bagley-Jones. 'Description The ShortRange Project is a joint effort from Christine Bagley-Jones and Joe Joyce. There are five zrf's contained within, as follows. 1. HyperModern Shatranj (2 variants) 2. HyperModern Great Shatranj (4 variants) 3. LongRange ShortRange piece Mix (4 variants) 4. Shatranj 10x8 (2 variants) 5. Alice Shatranj (20 variants) You can download this game from zillions site via this link.' I could go on, but it's silly [even moreso than I am]. I suppose I should correct any gross distortions in your characterizations of my work, but have at me. You have asked for a write up for this Alice variant; if my write up is as generous as your ratings of my write ups, then it will be very short indeed, lol. I floated the basis, if not a synopsis, of a write up in these Directed Alice comments. I also asked if it should be written up. Since Gary, who seemed in favor, wished me luck, and you, not in favor, asked for a write up, I will do one, by popular demand. In the meantime, keep rippin' me up, dude; rumor has it that some find it funny. And there needs to be more humor in the game-design community, don't you think? ;-) Enjoy, Joe Edit Form You may not post a new comment, because ItemID Directed Alice does not match any item.