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One question: is a Yahoo allowed to move back to its starting square when the arrows allow for it, making a null move?
A comment about the 'Korean' Clodhopper -- following the analogy with the Korean Cannon, they should not be allowed to capture other Clodhoppers.
About the exit moves. I can see very easily how you ended up with them, and I for one like the forced exit rule, since it should make the game more decisive. An alternate approach if you did want to forbid them the tower in the first place would be to shade the arrows pointing into the tower, and add a rule that Ninnys and Yahoos may not follow a shaded arrow on their side of the board.
I have a black and white version of the board here: http://www.samiam.org/new-ivorytower9x10-bw.bmp - Sam
As Fergus has pointed out, Sam Trenholme's black and white version consists of arrow outlines... with the squares not defined by borders or colors. But I think if these were added to basic color squares (as used in most chess setups) we would have a board similar to that of the 'All the King's Men' game, which has imitation wood and noticeable, yet much more subtle arrows. Note that I was likely spoiled by the physical board I own and the 3D plastic medeival-type pieces that came with it. Perhaps, most important here, is the fact that [other than myself and a co-worker] I know of no one else who minds the bright colors and the current piece set with eyes. So, as the Star Trek Spock once said, 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one or the few.' So there is certainly no need to create a second board and piece set on my account, that would be a waste of time and space. But I do thank Mr. Trenholme for taking the time to create and present his black and white bitmap.
Perhaps for some, but that's not a valid statement because it is unconditional. I had a very successful experience playing STIT last night using my graphics, the first time I was able to play the game to completion. I personally find the Smess-like graphics unplayable.
Michael, I have long known you as someone who has his head on his shoulders, and you have long been one of the members of this site I hold the highest respect for. I still believe that you are that person I respect, and I will just assume you are having a bad day. I do appreciate that you went to the trouble to make my game more accessible to people who may not like my Smess graphics. I do not mean to be cold, but I do tend to be blunt and to the point. In this particular matter, I could not be very encouraging, because I was never excited over the idea of replacing my Smess graphics with something more 'classic.' As for constructive feedback, I did give that. I carefully explained how the board induced optical illusions and gave specific recommendations on what to do to fix this.
Michael, please send me your new board. I would like to include an alternate board if it doesn't induce optical illusions.
For those interested, here is Michael's original board. I converted it to PNG for viewing on the web. If you want to use it with my ZRF, you can convert it back to BMP and edit the ZRF to use it.
Here is a recoloring of Michael's original board that I like much better. One trick I found helpful for reducing the tendency toward inducing optical illusions was to checker the board AND make the triangles the same color as the other color of square. I used black triangles in the Ivory Tower for better contrast. Another helpful trick was to combine the board with a marble background to give it texture. This helps the eyes to better distinguish each square. I converted it a JPG to display on the web.
My vote is for the original Smess-style playing field. Please keep it. You might offer that alternate field in the ZRF, if you wish. My conspiracy antenna is giving me the signal that all this might be a New_Coke/Classic_Coke propaganda ploy. Push out a revised product to create controversy and get lots of public attention then revert to the original under the illusion of responding to public demand. Nah! No-one would ever do that! Would they? ;-)
I also like the more minimalistic look of Michael's board. I don't think I would have any trouble playing on this board. I can see where Fergus is coming from, though; I wouldn't call them optical illusions, but in some parts of the board the patterns formed by the triangles are noticeable. Some of these patterns have their own kind of beauty, and to my eyes they don't obscure the squares, but I can easily understand how some people could find it hard to play on this board, just as others find it hard to play on the Smess-style board. My own opinion is that Fergus's board is more fun to look at, but Michael's would probably be easier to play on.
As I write this I've just noticed Fergus's recoloring of Michael's board, which I like very much. The checkering helps a great deal (more than I expected), the texture gives the board life, and the colors are very well chosen. And it preserves the elegant simplicity of Michael's design.
If there's any interest in yet another StIT board, I think it would be nice to have one in the style of All the King's Men, which I think in at least two ways would be an appropriate complement to the Smess-style board. In All the King's Men, the squares resembled a wooden floor, and the arrows had a simple, uniform style, easy to see but not distracting. Iff Fergus and others are interested in having such a board, and if no one else wants to create it, I would be willing to try my hand, although I probably won't have the time until after New Year's Day.
BoardGameGeek's Smess page has some nice images of various editions of Smess, Take the Brain, and All the King's Men.
Here is a recolored redesign of Michael's latest board. His board used small arrows in place of the triangles. I drew lines between some arrows, then recolored it. It uses wood (maple and walnut) for most of the board and marble for the river and Ivory Tower. I think it looks best with the Big5 Chinese set shown in this screenshot.
Michael Howe wrote:
My personal preference at the moment, though, is still my tan-squared board with little black arrows, although now I'm considering giving it the same color-treatment. I doubt that I can do the texturing, though, with the simple software I use to make graphics.
You don't need to. Once I did the triangle board, it was simple enough to apply the same process to the new board. Here is the result. BTW, the graphics program I use is Ultimate Paint, a fairly inexpensive shareware program.
Here is my latest version of the board. I have added more connecting lines between arrows. These eliminate the problem of optical illusions without resorting to texturizing the board. They give each space a specific shape that helps define the terrain of the board. This allows for a board with simple colors and good contrast. I have also eliminated the lines between spaces, which are important only for a monochrome board, such as the ones Michael originally made. I will be using this board as a template for textured boards, since such boards still look nice and work better with certain piece sets.
I think it would look best with the colors of the wooden one, but without the texture. Just my two cents.
I like the new Clodhopper and Fuddy-Duddy pieces in the Smess-style set. I preferred the name Dumbo, though, as it seemed so perfect for a piece based on the elephant. Fuddy-Duddy makes some sense too, but I've known ministers who are anything but dull, conservative, and unimaginative.
I also think that the arrows should be extended to the center of the squares
Here is a board sent in by Larry Smith. Thanks, Larry. I renamed it and fixed the coloring of an arrow on one square. I am working on using this board as material for new alternate boards.
Here is how Larry's board looks with the Smess-style board's colors. Maybe some people would appreciate something like this with different colors.
Here is one possible recoloring of Larry's board. I added the moats back in to better distinguish the ivory squares from the neighboring light squares.
I had thought that I had previously rated this game. But after reviewing all the comments here, I discovered otherwise. I remember when a friend of mine dragged out a Smess game and tortured me with it. I was a fan from that day. So when this XiangQi extrapolation of Smess appeared I was definitely intrigued. I suspected that the dynamics of each of these games would not mesh well. And the early version did have a few minor problems. This could be the reason that I did not post an evaluation. Now that the game has gotten a facelift, I took another look. What can I say but 'Wow!' Very nicely done. The overall play of the game appears to be quite nice. The various pieces interact very well with the pattern of directions. Now East Asians can enjoy the Smess aggravation. Here's a question: Is the name 'Smess' derived from 'It's a mess'?
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