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H. G. Muller wrote on Thu, Sep 5 03:07 AM EDT in reply to A. M. DeWitt from Wed Sep 4 02:55 PM:

Bridge capture is a rule for double captures, so it would never apply to pieces that cannot make those.

A. M. DeWitt wrote on Wed, Sep 4 02:55 PM EDT in reply to H. G. Muller from 09:20 AM:

I intend to keep all pieces that appear in Chu as they appear in that game, with the exception that the Lion-trading rules would be applied to the new power piece (PP for short). I was considering including a Lion Dog and Hook Movers. The 2-out-1-in move can be pretty easily defended against by placing a ranging piece behind the victim. But since that piece is pretty similar to the Lion and Tengu Dai Shogi already had that, I wanted something new.

I was initially thinking about doing some sort of short-range Ko Shogi-like rifle capture where the normal move cannot capture and the capturing move is an igui move, but also allowing both to be done once per move in any order. This creates the desired power gap between the Lion and the PP (power piece) when the non-capturing move is mKmNmAmD (Full Betza: KmNmScafmFcaba(mpa)1mK(mpa)1mpacabmK).

However, that raises a question: For locust movers that capture only once, do you need a bridge-capture-threshold exception like the Lion does in Chu Shogi?

H. G. Muller wrote on Wed, Sep 4 09:20 AM EDT in reply to A. M. DeWitt from Mon Sep 2 11:13 AM:

Well, I suppose that part of the reason a Lion is so valuable is that it can so easily checkmate on its own. That makes it hard to predict the value relative to pieces that cannot. The most obvious method for taking away the mating potential would be to keep the piece devoid of Knight moves.

The Lion Dog in the interpretation where it can do 2-out-1-in locust captures might be more valuable. (But I don't really like that piece, as there seems no defense against this.) The Tenjiku Free Eagle might qualify on 15x15 (where the Lion loses importance due to its slowness, and the ability to move as Queen is worth quite a lot). You could even beef it up to a 'Super Eagle' by allowing also two Wazir moves per turn (QcaWcaFcabK, possibly also adding DA). Even QcabK could be pretty strong.

It would be hard to achieve the desired value without locust captures. Perhaps with hook moves (diagonal to avoid lone mating), but Tengu Dai Shogi already exists. If you plan to allow entirely new moves, AD rifle captures could be a useful building block. Unlike the Lion's igui these can attack steppers with impunity. And unlike the Lion Dog, you can defend against the igui forks by attacking the square it is on, as all igui moves end on the same square.

A. M. DeWitt wrote on Mon, Sep 2 11:13 AM EDT:

@H. G. Muller,

I am making a new chess variant, Reiwa Dai Shogi, that is basically Dai Shogi with better piece balancing, replacing the weak pieces with stronger ones with stronger promotions.

However, I am struggling to make a good power piece for the game. Ideally, I want something that is stronger than the Lion but still has difficulty mating.

I figured it would be a good idea to have you weigh in on this, since you know a fair deal about Chu Shogi and the historical variants.

Here's a diagram of my first in-dev version. Lion is currently subject to trading rules due to lack of a stronger power piece ATM. The only new pieces are the Ram's-Head Soldiers on c1 and m1.

files=15 ranks=15 promoOffset=22 promoZone=5 maxPromote=19 promoChoice=+ royal=100 protected=21 counterStrike=21 protected=32 counterStrike=32 tradeThreshold=2 royal=22 royal=30 stalemate=win graphicsDir=/membergraphics/MSdaishogi/ whitePrefix=w blackPrefix=b lightShade=#ffe682 darkShade=#ffe682 graphicsType=png?nocache=true squareSize=36 symmetry=rotate firstRank=1 newClick=1 Pawn:P:fW:p:a5-o5 morph=| Go Between:I:vW:go:e6,k6 Copper General:C:vWfF:c:e1,k1 Silver General:S:FfW:s:f1,j1 Gold General:G:WfF:g:g1,i1 Ferocious Leopard:F:FvW:fl:d1,l1 Blind Tiger:T:FsbW:bt:g2,i2 Drunk Elephant:E:FfsW:de:h2 Phoenix:X:WA:ph:i3 Kirin:O:FD:kn:g3 Lance:L:fR:l:a1,o1 Ram's-Head Soldier:RS:fB:fst:c1,m1 Reverse Chariot:A:vR:rv:a2,o2 Side Mover:M:sRvW:sm:b4,n4 Vertical Mover:V:vRsW:vm:c4,m4 Bishop:B:B:b:d3,l3 Rook:R:R:r:d4,l4 Dragon Horse:H:BW:dh:e4,k4 Dragon King:D:RF:dk:f4,j4 Queen:Q:Q:q:i4 Lion:N:KNScaKmcabK:ln:g4 King:K:K:k:h1 Tokin:+P:WfF:g2: Drunk Elephant:+I:FfsW:de2: Side Mover:+C:sRvW:sm2: Vertical Mover:+S:vRsW:vm2: Rook:+G:R:r2: Bishop:+F:B:b2: Flying Stag:+T:vRsWF:fs2: Prince:+E:K:k: Queen:+X:Q:q2: Lion:+O:KNScaKmcabK:ln2: counterStrike=21 White Horse:+L:vRfB:wh2: Free Wolf:+RS:sRfBbW:fw: Whale:+A:vRbB:wl2: Free Boar:+M:BsR:fb2: Flying Ox:+V:BvR:fo2: Dragon Horse:+B:BW:dh2: Dragon King:+R:RF:dk2: Horned Falcon:+H:BbsRfWfDfcavWfabW:hf2: Soaring Eagle:+D:RbBfFfAfcavFfabF:se2:

Henrik Enström wrote on Sun, Aug 25 06:42 AM EDT:Excellent ★★★★★

Hi, I found your very nice svg versions of piece variants for a lot of pieces here on chessvariants.com - I'm referring to http://winboard.nl/alpha/

I have played on Yucata.de for some time, and they recently released Grand Chess with a lot of pieces (81 extra) which originated from chessvariants.com. Then I had the idea to do a print-and-play for myself with the same graphics as on Yucata.

Unfortunately their piece images were very small gifs, so that's why I was happy to find your svg files. Anyway, I have started to do an AI file using the same color for the black pieces as on Yucata, mostly I can use your svg files and some extra work is needed.

I just wanted to thank you for making your work downloadable, and if you have any use of the extra work I did just tell me. I might want to do an online version on futureskill.com at some point, please tell me if this is ok for you.

/Henrik

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