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It was last modified on: 2011-02-27
 By Travis  Z. Xiangqi vs Orthodox Chess. Missing description (9x9, Cells: 77) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
seonoo wrote on 2013-12-20 UTCBelowAverage ★★
The Mao is worth two pawns, the Elephant worth about one ( remember, Alfil is one and a half, and the elephant can' t cross the river and can't jump, so), the Guards maybe one and a quarter ( the ferz is one and a half, and the Guard is confined), the Cannon worth maybe four, and each pawn probably a quarter. So (2+1+1.25+4+5)x2+(0.75x5)=26.5+3.75= 30.25. But (5+3+3+9)x2+8=48!!  So Xiangqi loses easily. Maybe yang qi against chess?

Hafsteinn Kjartansson wrote on 2011-06-24 UTCPoor ★
The F3 problem is too great for this to be a good game. I hate to rate a game 'poor', but if not fixed,that problem kills the game.

Ivan Roth wrote on 2011-03-18 UTCGood ★★★★
Umm... Here's a stupid question: Cannon to F3, couldn't the rook just capture the cannon, as would happen in orthodox xianqi?

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on 2011-03-18 UTCPoor ★
To Travis Z: Cannon to F3, does not take any Knight. It is moving the cannon two spaces in front of the Chinese Advisor, using the FIDE King's Pawn as the screen.

Travis Z wrote on 2011-03-18 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
You stated, '1) Which side moves first? Assuming that the Chinese side moves first, he
plays,
'1. Cannon {either} - F3! CHECKMATE!'

2) Your rules say that the Chess King cannot be seen by the Chinese
General. Is this
a) only along the forward orthogonal?
b) along all four orthogonals?
c alng all orthogonals and all diagonals?'

First your first point about checkmate is wrong.  Actually study the variant before making a response.  If the cannon takes either knight the other player can simply move the rook and get out of check.  THERE IS NO CHECKMATE POSSIBLE ON THE FIRST MOVE.

As for your second point.  I mentioned how that rule is the same as in regular Chinese Chess.  Read the regular rules first to understand.  The King does not move diagonallys in Chinese Chess.  So option 'C' is gone.  Now as for options 'A' or 'B' the Chinese Chess rules state that there always has to be a piece between Kings, as the King could theortically move as a Chariot or Rook and take the other King.  So by some simple logic that puts it at option 'B'.

Back on the first point.  I do not need to say who moves first.  Play as you like.  I do not have to specify that as it is not necessary to game play.  Would you like me to post you out all sorts of thousands of game plays?

From here on out, I will not even respond to comments which are unfounded or ill thought through.

Malcolm Webb wrote on 2011-03-06 UTCBelowAverage ★★
1) Which side moves first? Assuming that the Chinese side moves first, he
plays,
'1. Cannon {either} - F3! CHECKMATE!'

2) Your rules say that the Chess King cannot be seen by the Chinese
General. Is this
a) only along the forward orthogonal?
b) along all four orthogonals?
c alng all orthogonals and all diagonals?

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