[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Rated Comments for a Single ItemLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Generic Chess Piece Creation System. This is a system for construction of pieces, using ideas from RPG games.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Matthew wrote on 2015-12-05 UTCAverage ★★★I appreciate the effort you put into this, but it's incredibly broken and messy. Allow me to demonstrate: I create a piece called "Rifleman", since it is like a more advanced version of the lance - Orthogonal forward (3), repeat infinite (*5), dual strike move (*8), rifle capture (*3), doesn't move (/2), single chance move (/4), kamikaze (/4) =10+3*5*8*3/2/4/4=21.25. The FIDE army costs 110+150 (remember, the king has a *5 mod for being royal)+2*(70+42+45)+8*15=694 points. 1 rifleman kills the king immediately (start on e8, capture pawn on e2, capture king on e1). For total, guaranteed wipeout of the FIDE forces 16 riflemen are required, costing 340 points total, not counting my royal piece, which might as well be immobile (and that's overkill, I'm sure I could optimize the cost further). I suggest making these changes: Make rifle capture/igui VERY costly (*5?); lower kamikaze and single chance reduction to points (/3 each?); explain powers more clearly, I didn't fully understand the system (WTF is poison etc.). From what I do understand, they have great potential for abuse too (a rank of passive burn lances...); metamorph means exactly what?; remove INVULNERABILITY/can't be captured (for obvious reasons), or at least allow it only with pieces which can't capture (like immobilizer, ghost) and aren't royal; define promotes, reproduces, spins and spawner more clearly. Oh, checkmate (almost) equals can't be captured, have you ever tried checkmating a mere bishop? I'd suggest removing it, as it's essentially a duplicate. Poisoned Shogi pawn rush might also be a tactic, so please nerf it somehow (maybe only working on pieces of equal or lower value than the poisoned piece?) Ah, so here is how the poison aura works. Strangely enough, the poison aura is much cheaper than the poisoned modifier (*2 vs *3, applies only to a part of the piece's cost). The most broken strategy I can think of is using ranks of immobile pieces with a - 10 pts cost (1/4 bound, can't capture) with an ally-repelling poison aura king to launch them into the enemy camp. A fix for lot of the broken builds I listed would be introducing obstacles on the game board (so that you actually have to purchase sideways moves). Despite all my critique, this is a great system, and I can see you've put a lot of work into it. I think it certainly would be more fun than e.g. Chu Shogi, although IMO it still needs some development. Andy Maxson wrote on 2007-02-28 UTCGood ★★★★the elephant alfil plus dabbaba is actually 1/4 bound. and isn't the zebra and antelope weaker than the knight? they are more akward. how about a hopper category? lot's of these pieces come from works of lim ther peng or adrian king Corgi wrote on 2004-12-24 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I really like this! I'm taking a whack at a chess variant themed off a fiction series, and this really helps me figure out the value of the pieces for balance. However, two things I spotted that I think are errors - 'K' is being used as the symbol/abbreviation for both Knight and King; and the King (Radius 1) is valued at 20 in one spot then 30 in another. In addition, shouldn't the basic King be worth more? (3*4) for orthogonal, (2*4) for diagonal = 12+8=20... then (2*2)/4 for the castling move = 1... then (21*2)*5 for a Royal piece which can only be captured by checkmate. That's... [sheepishly pulls out calculator] 210. Very practical page - thanks for sharing it. Eco wrote on 2003-07-20 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I really like this one! But there are some things that need clarifying. First off, how does the reproduction ability work? There's no explanation of that other than 'spawns pieces.' Also, is there any convention for pieces that can move in a particular direction, say 3 spaces, but ONLY that many spaces? 4 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.