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It was last modified on: 2002-04-09
 By Ralph  Betza. Feeble Chess to Weakest Chess. Pieces are weakenend as they must use a turn to change direction or flip between taking and non-taking mode. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
George Duke wrote on 2011-07-19 UTCGood ★★★★
Finding the weakest possible truly chess-like pieces is Betza's raison d'etre here. A different Betzan cv is Weak!, forty years old, Weak_Chess. ''The feeble rook's estimated value is one twelfth of a Rook,'' but a comment questions the positing of one twenty fourth, 1/24, more or less by the time it has become weakened to weakest. Actually this same Feeble has several classic Betza comments on Capablanca and the_Go/chess_interface.

Sam Trenholme wrote on 2005-02-11 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
I think this game will make a basis for a game that will be very difficult for computers to play. In fact, I have made a balanced four-move variant of the game that works like this: <ul> <li>White makes one move <li>Black makes two moves <li>White makes three moves <li>Black makes four moves <li>Both sides make four moves for the rest of the game </ul> This somewhat speeds up the game, while making the number of possible moves per side so large that standard alpha-deta searches that computer chess games use completely ineffective in this variant of the game. <p> It is the same idea as Arimaa, but not bounded by the copyright/patents that Arimaa has.

Tony Quintanilla wrote on 2002-07-15 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
Very interesting game. I hope to try it out soon. The idea that assuming a
capturing posture is in effect part of the movement of a piece is
fascinating. 

A suggestion for a table-set: for a capturing posture, place the piece
slightly over the edge of the square towards which it is oriented. For
orientation of a piece, locate the piece just within the edge of the
square towards which it is oriented.

Regarding Ralph's aspirations to create a Chess variant that feels like
Go, one that is primarily intuitive, that would be great--although I
cannot claim to understand master level Chess thought. Kids play
intuitively, until they get 'spoiled' by reading Chess books! Intuitive
play is definitely more fun. I read that Capablanca played intuitively (I
guess he could get away with it because he was so brilliant), but that was
part of his downfall when he encountered players that studied a great
deal. In fact, part of the appeal of Chess variants is that they keep us
guessing. I have to say, though, that Zillions spoils the fun a little by
making it quite easy to study new games.

Doug Chatham wrote on 2002-04-11 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
If we created higher dimensional analogues of the Feeble/Weak/Weakest
pieces, would we be able to make a playable higher-dimensional CV with them
(perhaps even a Chess For Any Number of Dimensions)?

David Howe wrote on 2002-04-11 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
I wish I had thought of this! The idea of finding the weakest possible pieces that still provide a chess-like game is inspired. For some reason, it reminded me of my attempt to create a <a href='../newideas.dir/construction.html'>chess variant construction set</a>. The concept of a flipping move to switch between capture-only and move-only is something I never thought of. On the whole, a well-thought-out, and aesthetically pleasing game. I must try it out sometime!

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