[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Rated Comments for a Single ItemLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Fantasy Grand Chess: Dwarven Army. Dwarven Army. (10x10, Cells: 100) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Triceratapps Astaire wrote on 2014-01-31 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Well, pretty cool to see Dwarven Chess envisioned in 2000. 14 years later, it's available on the Google play store and Apple store, Mac and iOS. You can see some screen shots here: http://www.appszoom.com/android_games/brain_puzzle/dwarven-chess_iwyid.html It's probably the most involved Chess variant ever made, or that will ever be made. 15 background, 30 unique pieces, 2 campaigns- Goblin and Dwarven. I'm actually surprised it isn't featured on this site, since it is representing every person who ever posted a chess variant here over the years in many ways! I like how you have some different rules to your Dwarven Army though. George Duke wrote on 2008-12-19 UTCGood ★★★★The Dwarven Army has the same value as the Human Army, because Peter Hatch put a lot of time into it and said so determined by design. David Paulowich wrote on 2007-05-07 UTCGood ★★★★Those 10 soldiers may be worth 15 or 16 pawns. This is not a big problem. Dwarves are slow, so slow that I am assigning a '2 pawn penalty' for the extra moves they take to develop in the opening. The 10 other pieces in the Dwarven Army have a total value about 2 pawns less their Grand Chess counterparts. One small adjustment can bring the two armies into line: substitute my War Horse for Peter Hatch's General, dropping the value another 2 pawns. Or you could leave the General unchanged and drop the 'forward ferz move' from the two War Machines. These are the best estimates that I can arrive at without playtesting. Here is the big problem. Cannons get weaker as the other pieces are traded off. By the time 80 percent of the squares are empty, the Cannon is only half the value of a Rook. On the 10x10 board, this means a Cannon is worth a full Pawn less than a Bishop (which I assign 5/8 of a Rook's value). Even the slow moving Priest is worth about 3/5 of a Rook. Cannons need to face an opposing army with a variety of low-value pieces, that can be used to block the Cannon attacks. See Jean-Louis Cazaux's SHAKO for a successful chess variant design. NOTE: Berolina Pawns would do the job nicely, but they are not under consideration. 3 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.