[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Rated Comments for a Single ItemLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Janggi - 장기 - Korean Chess. The variant of chess played in Korea. (9x10, Cells: 90) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Kevin Pacey wrote on 2018-03-01 UTCExcellent ★★★★★There's a reason this regional game has lasted for so long. Perhaps it's even a Classic by CVP standards. Roleigh Martin wrote on 2010-02-25 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Please change link to Roleigh Martin's rule's page to here: http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/afi/koreanch.htm The link you have is dead. (the timelesseye link). George Duke wrote on 2008-06-27 UTCGood ★★★★Thanks for attention, Charles. Daniel expresses interesting opinions here. Daniel has missed prior topics showing USA, Canadian, UK, and French chess patents back to 1870's. Scrabble and Monopoly are originally patented. Verbosity like ''insult to rich history of Chess'' is so much uninformed babble. Precedents for Falcon include, besides this Changgi, Gala (13th Century), Novo Chess (1930's), problem piece Bison (1970's). There are two Camel-Bison-Knight compounds in 'ECV', one of course Maus' Cavalry Chess(1920's). There are about 6 and about 15 respectively of Knight-Zebra and Knight-Camel. All these I (hey the team WE) made USA Patent & Trademark Office aware of: fortunately Pritchard's book had just come out. The clauses ''anyone can...'' or ''one can easily add...'' or words to that effect are commonly applied to Patents jealously later. Why be devoting minds to this if it has no merit? A great idea is obvious after the fact, as Jeremy Good defends the Falcon innovation. Please ask Fourriere or Carlos about game play with three-path Falcon. Charles Daniel wrote on 2008-06-27 UTCGood ★★★★This game (and several others) have the lame knight and lame zebra (here elephant). That is both pieces are incapable of moving to destination if path is blocked. For the elephant, one can easily add more possible pathways to destination square for example two diagonal and one orthogonal outwards. Combining the knight and elephant here - and adding alternate paths, one gets the Sliding Sorcerer Knight used in experimental sub-variation of Herculean Chess As used in Korean Chess, the Elephant /Knight as used here make for excellent play. However, as previously noted, the two compounded do not make for good game-play as some might expected. I tried it out and was not impressed. Even worse would be to compound a zebra and camel and adding multiple paths - nothing new of course - (anyone can do this!). Patenting an already existing idea is truly an insult to the rich history of chess, but it has been done by a few. Fortunately, the few patents for pieces ( not sure how many are out there but one comes to mind) , are for awkward pieces proposed with even more clumsy configurations. The patent and its well deserved criticism of course do not apply to excellent single function pieces such as the Elephant and Knight used here nor to the interesting Ferz-Camel compound used in Omega Chess nor for that matter the fascinating Ferz/Wazir Sorcerers in Hadean and Herculean Chess. Anonymous wrote on 2008-03-09 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Hello, nice site. I was just wondering of you knew of any places to play online, since I can't seem to access Korean game sites (they require some kind of Korean registration ID number that foreigners don't have). Let me know if you are aware of a place to play online. Thanks. Alfred Pfeiffer wrote on 2006-11-06 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Precision to an entry in the section 'Books': Wurman, David: 'Chinesisches Schach, Koreanisches Schach'. Verlag Harry Deutsch, Franfurt am Main, Thun; 1991, ISBN 3-8171-1166-5 Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on 2006-06-18 UTCExcellent ★★★★★oh this should be rated better than good! chris wrote on 2006-03-23 UTCExcellent ★★★★★If you use your horse to checkmate your opponent and your general faces the opponent's general, could it be a draw? Jose Carrillo wrote on 2004-06-03 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Fergus, Thanks! I can't wait to play Korean Chess in Game Courier! As an option for the game pieces, maybe you can use the same Chinese characters you are using for Chinese Chess, but inside octagons, instead of circles. Jose Rick Knowlton wrote on 2004-02-28 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I just realized that I don't know which are the horses and which are the elephants in the Korean chess set. In other forms of chess, the position on the board diagram indicates this, but because Korean chess allows the horses and elephants to be placed at the player's choice, just seeing the pieces laid out on the board doesn't necessarily tell which is which. I don't have any trouble with the one side, which looks like the characters from Chinese chess -- but the other side. So my question is this: Are the Korean characters on this page arranged in the standard Rook-knight-bishop-queen-king-queen-bishop-knight line-up? ...or not? Much thanks for the clarification! Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-01-19 UTCGood ★★★★I notice that Byoung, one of the names for the Pawn equivalent, is similar to the Pyong of Pyongyang, the North Korean capital. As North Korea is a Communist nation, which glorifies the common man, I wondered if there was any connection. .................... wrote on 2003-11-28 UTCGood ★★★★ Seongmo Yoon wrote on 2003-09-14 UTCExcellent ★★★★★This is the official homepage of Korean Chess Association <p>It is only in Korean now <p>http://www.kja.or.kr Jay wrote on 2003-08-17 UTCExcellent ★★★★★International chess has a rule of thumb values of the chess pieces. Like Knight and Bishops are equal to 3 pawns, Rooks are about 5 worth. Queen is worth 9 etc. Korean chess has some references like the Elephant(Sang) is worth 2 pawns (Jol) or one guard (Sa). Anyone know what the Cha,Po,Ma,Sang are worth in comparison values ? Simon Spalding wrote on 2003-05-09 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Bravo to this author as well as to Roleigh Martin for making instructions for the game available in English! As anyone interested in East Asian Chess variants will have found, Korean Chess is much harder to find (instructions or equipment) than Xiangqi or Shogi. Supermarkets in Korean neighborhoods of Southern California often stock cheap pieces, occasionally stock cheap composition boards (made by www.7brothers.com, who are primarily a Go/Weiqi board maker), but I have yet to find a source for nicer-but-not-too-expensive equipment. Hint to those seeking equipment: bring a drawing of the board and pieces with you to show the shop clerks what you are looking for. Has anybody found nicer-quality equipment for sale outside Korea? E-mail me at [email protected], please! Oddball wrote on 2003-05-01 UTCGood ★★★★I'm living in Korea now, and am learning from a couple of experienced Korean players. They told me that the initial placement of the Horse (Ma) and Elephand (Sahng) are reversible. That is, as long as they are opposite their opponent's piece of the same rank. Any insights about that? Kev wrote on 2003-01-08 UTCGood ★★★★The (plastic) sets can be purchased at your local Korean grocery or gift stores. Search the yellow pages. Bit-Jang, or one king calling a 'check' on the opponent king, as explained 'naked path between two kings', means 'check to tie'. If your opponent captures one of your pieces and thus his king is facing your king nakedly, then his king is 'checking to tie' your king. If you do NOT want the tie, then you must be out of the naked path by either putting a piece in between kings or changing the king's position side ways. If you do agree to tie, then the game is declared stalemate/tie. A soldier (or pawn) cannot move backward from row 10 to row 9 by moving through the diagonal line in the enemy's fortess. Usually, there are three sizes to pieces. Kings are largest. Cha (chariott), Po (Cannon), Ma (Horse/Knight), Sang (Elephant) are all considered officers and medium sized. Jol/Byung (pawns) and Sa (guards) are soldiers and the smallest. ian stanley wrote on 2002-12-03 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Anybody know of a supplier of korean chess sets - i have been playing for a number of months on the computer or with my chinese chess set - but want the real thing for my collection? [email protected] Sam Lam wrote on 2002-11-16 UTCGood ★★★★I want to learn to play Korean chess and this site gives me a good introduction. But point 7. b) and 8. make me confused. For point 7. b), if my opponent captures one of my pieces and thus his king faces my king nakedly, then I will be in advantage and I will not be willing to let him draw. Is it a rule that it is a draw game under that suitation ? For point 8., can a soldier (or pawn) move backward from row 10 to row 9 by moving through the diagonal line in the enemy's fortess ? Please answer me, my e-mail is [email protected] Thanks a lot. Shawn wrote on 2002-07-20 UTCGood ★★★★Hello, nice site. I read your instructions and they were enough to get me playing my first game without too many problems! I was just wondering of you knew of any places to play online, since I can't seem to access Korean game sites (they require some kind of Korean registration ID number that foreigners don't have). Let me know if you are aware of a place to play online. Thanks. Sam wrote on 2002-06-27 UTCPoor ★Nice page, but it has no history in it. Why are some pieces smaller then others. Tell us. Thank you. 21 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.