[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier⇩ Earliest⇧ Glinski's Hexagonal Chess. Chess on a board made out of hexagons. (Cells: 91) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Kevin Pacey wrote on 2016-09-19 UTCExcellent ★★★★★For my own comparison of this fine variant to the equally fine McCooey's Hexagonal Chess, see my review for the latter variant. Decades ago I saw values given for the pieces in Glinski's (that would seem to apply to McCooey's too): P=1; B=3; N=4; R=5; Q=9. I'd add that I estimate the fighting value of K=4 approximately (though naturally it cannot be traded). Michel Gutierrez wrote on 2014-05-17 UTCI have updated the Glinski Chess implementation on Jocly to match rule 2. The Android and iPhone/iPad apps are still using rule 1 until the next upgrade. Ben Reiniger wrote on 2014-05-09 UTC(Maybe you added it after finding an answer on wikipedia, but that pawn rule currently appears here as rule 3.) Fergus Duniho wrote on 2014-05-09 UTCI found the answer on Wikipedia. It says "If a pawn captures from its starting cell in such a way that it then occupies a starting cell of another pawn, it can still make a double move." Fergus Duniho wrote on 2014-05-09 UTCI am working on a new Game Courier preset for this game that should handle win/loss conditions, and it occurred to me that double moves can be handled in one of two ways. A double move is allowed only on a Pawn's first move. A double move is allowed from any space the same player could start his Pawns on. Has there been any ruling on which is correct? It makes a difference if a Pawn moves to another space that another of his Pawns started on by capturing a piece. Peter wrote on 2010-05-06 UTCLive hexagonal chess competition will be in Hungary on 8-11 July 2010. More details at http://5mp.eu/fajlok/hexasakk/2010_tamasi_k_angol_www.5mp.eu_.htm All are welcome! Peter Peter wrote on 2010-02-02 UTCThe next live hexagonal chess competition will take place in Hungary on 12-15 March 2010. More details at http://5mp.eu/fajlok/hexasakk/versenykiiras_angol_www.5mp.eu_.htm All are welcome! Peter Richmond Mathewson wrote on 2009-04-07 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I have been playing Hexagonal chess with this layout: http://mail.maclaunch.com/richmond/hexchess.html for years. I believe it is better than Glinski's because there is greater space between opposing pawns. David Paulowich wrote on 2008-01-31 UTCCarlos, the preset is listed under Hexagonal Chess (Glinski). carlos carlos wrote on 2008-01-31 UTCwhere is the preset for this game? Ian Hudson wrote on 2007-05-03 UTCDoes anyone know where I might buy a Glinski Hexagonal chess board? If so, please email me at [email protected] Thanks. Sergej Korchitskij wrote on 2006-04-20 UTCIt is no hard to win in hexachess! I never had such problem! Tord Romstad wrote on 2006-03-23 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Hexagonal chess is no more drawish than normal chess, and it is no more difficult to deliver mate than in normal chess. It is true that the king has greater mobility, but so does most of the other pieces. The reason why some beginners believe that it's difficult to deliver mate is probably that spotting mating patterns can be a bit tricky for beginners; partly because the game is unfamiliar, and partly because there is a bigger number of potential flight squares to inspect in order to mentally verify that it is indeed a mate. I am the author of Scatha, which is probably the strongest hexagonal chess program available today. Unfortunately, it only runs on Mac OS X. If someone is interested in giving the game a try against a strong opponent, I would be happy to play a few informal e-mail games with Scatha. I would be very impressed if someone manages a draw. Gary Gifford wrote on 2006-03-16 UTCExcellent ★★★★★In regard to Sam's comments about Glinski's great game.... I see no need to complain about it. It's been around since about 1936 or 1938 and little research shows that there were over 500,000 players of this game at one point... quite commendable. Also, it remains the most popular of hexagonal chess variants and even has world championship playoffs. Sam Trenholme wrote on 2006-03-16 UTC I agree that six games is not an exhaustive sample. However, it's the best data I have available. Now, I don't have enough of a background in statistics to give you a error percentage with these figures; however, it may be telling that we have played 31 FIDE Chess games on Game Courier and not one of them ended in a draw. Then again, according to this Russian page (translated via the fish here) King + Rook vs. King (and King + Queen vs. King) is a mate against a bare King. I wish I had more game results to look at to see just how drawish this game is; the results over at Game Courier don't make this game look very good. Perhaps Glinski's Hex Chess with Shogi drops? - Sam Editors: The last comment is a duplicate of this comment and may be safely deleted Anonymous wrote on 2006-03-16 UTC I agree that six games is not an exhaustive sample. However, it's the best data I have available. Now, I don't have enough of a background in statistics to give you a error percentage with these figures; however, it may be telling that we have played 31 FIDE Chess games on Game Courier and not one of them ended in a draw. Then again, according to this Russian page (translated via the fish here) King + Rook vs. King (and King + Queen vs. King) is a mate against a bare King. I wish I had more game results to look at to see just how drawish this game is; the results over at Game Courier don't make this game look very good. Perhaps Glinski's Hex Chess with Shogi drops? - Sam Roberto Lavieri wrote on 2006-03-15 UTCI have not confident data available, but I have seen a few results in high-level tournaments, by curiosity. I can´t conclude, but it seems, more or less, as drawish as Chess. It means: very drawish, as FIDE-Chess is, when played at very high level of play. Fergus Duniho wrote on 2006-03-15 UTCSix games is too small of a sample to draw any generalizations from. Another factor to consider is whether some of the players have any tendency toward drawing games. For example, Roberto Lavieri, who drew one of these games, has drawn about one quarter of all his games on Game Courier. In the game he played against Ben Good, the game ended while each side still had two Rooks, a Bishop, a Knight and several Pawns. Roberto was actually ahead by two Pawns and probably could have won, but he concluded that the game was drawish and offered Ben a draw, which, being behind, he was wise to take. If the game is drawish, your arguments for this will have to depend, at this point, on a priori analysis of the game mechanics or data on more games than those played on Game Courier. Sam Trenholme wrote on 2006-03-15 UTC Looks like you're right. Here is how I got to see all six games: I went to this page I typed in 'Glinski's Hexagonal Chess' in the 'Game Filter' box I put down 'Anytime' as the age filter. I put in 'Any games' as the status filter. I got the six games you mentioned. As an aside, I still consider a draw rate of 33% too high. Basically, if a game is getting over 10% draws, it is probably time to revise the game's rules. - Sam Fergus Duniho wrote on 2006-03-15 UTCSix games have been played on Game Courier, and only two have ended in draws. Sam Trenholme wrote on 2006-03-15 UTC Over three years ago, I pointed out that this game is probably too drawish, based on looking at the game mechanics (the king is too hard to checkmate). I'm not surprised that both games of Glinski's Hexagonal Chess played on the game courier server ended in draws. My Russian isn't good enough to look at all of the games played in tournaments on the Russian page, so I can't get a sense of the draw percentage there, but I will bet you it's a lot bigger than the corresponding FIDE Chess draw percentage. Here are three ways to make this game less drawish: The king can only move to one of the six hexes that fully touch the hex the king is on. I proposed this over three years ago. As an aside, a rule like this will also make many 3d Chess games less drawish. Bare king is a win for the other player; Mr. Gilman suggested this. Add Shogi-style drops to the game - Sam Andreas Kaufmann wrote on 2006-02-04 UTCBy the way, Alfred Pfeiffer found a nice way how to implement Glinski's standard notation in ZRF. One can simply use 'translate' command to give the cells desired coordinates: (translate ('g2' 'g1') ('g3' 'g2') ... ). I updated ZRF on my homepage (see my previous comment) with these changes. Andreas Kaufmann wrote on 2006-01-29 UTCExcellent ★★★★★ZRF with a nice graphics can be downloaded from my homepage. ZRF is by J. Mark Thompson and Ivan A Derzhanski, graphics created by me. Olya Chichkina wrote on 2005-04-02 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Creative! It will probably take hours and hours, or days, or months to reach checkmate (if it's reachable at all!) since there's so much space on the board and I'm not sure if I'd want to play this more than once, but I'd love to have something like Hexagonal Chess as a decoration! Love the idea! Bill wrote on 2004-12-19 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I had no idea. Great page and very informative. I think I will try this variant of the month. 25 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier⇩ Earliest⇧Permalink to the exact comments currently displayed.