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Vyrémorn Chess. Large variant on two overlapping square boards. (Cells: 132) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Reinhard Scharnagl wrote on 2008-05-03 UTC
George Duke wrote: ... RN and BN should ideally be called Champion and Centaur, because P. Carrera made them around year 1617. ...

Well, despite of avoiding christian influenced names like Archbishop, I suggested Centaur for RN (to remember Carrera) and Archangel (also existing in Jewish and Islamic contexts) for BN. This is done that way for to also preserve the well established abbreviations A and C.

George Duke wrote on 2008-05-03 UTC
Naming is not standardized, and if there were to be solution, it would have to be by priority. For example, RN and BN should ideally be called Champion and Centaur, because P. Carrera made them around year 1617. Here in 20-year-old Vyremorn, ''Elephant'' is the name of (Dabbabah + Ferz). We still want to find some pre-existing triple compounds of Betza atoms.

Nathan McDonald wrote on 2008-02-15 UTC
The creator of Vyremorn chess checking in once again.

Thank you for the continued interest in my work on it. I am starting a
blog as I type this, where my interest in game design will be one of the
topics I address.

Any questions about my chess variant can be directed there and should get
prompter response than inquiries here.

Thank you.

George Duke wrote on 2007-09-20 UTC
Conscientious Nathan McDonald here is world's apart from Daniel Macdonald of pretentious Omega Chess. Whew, nothing overlooked after all. Nice game Vyremorn written and laid out with consideration for the readers.

Anonymous wrote on 2007-09-20 UTC

The link on the rules page does not get you to Nathan's home page any more; but this one gets you to some photos of the game. It seemed there was an effort to try to get this one produced for the consumer.

As a note of interest: the Flamen and the Grand Bard pieces also happen to be in the Duke of Rutland Chess.

George Duke wrote on 2007-09-20 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
'STUV' The Inventor answered my 2004 Comment a year ago, no other Comments intervening--for a 1999 Number 1 Contest Winner! And no Preset to keep Vyremorn fresh. McDonald's design philosophy includes reckoning 'total piece count, number of opening moves, types of maintain the ratios that exist in traditional chess'. A Pawn in the Field is already promoted just by exiting its native court. No move ever fully transits the field into the opposite Court, but the field can be bypassed. Some similarity in varying degree to divisions, areas and/or blockages within the board structure itself of Gala, Chess with Terrain, Novo Chess, Eight Stone(pieces actually), In the Bin, Conveyor, and Big Outer. Vyremorn and Eight Stone are very playable, and Novo and Gala of great historical importance.

Nathan McDonald wrote on 2006-11-29 UTC
Thank you for noticing the balance of the game.  Amongst other things, I
took into account total piece count, number of opening moves, types of
moves, and the number of movable spaces available to all pieces on an
unobstructed board, and attempted to maintain the ratios that exist in
traditional chess.

I am happy to see that lasting documentation of my efforts still exists.

George Duke wrote on 2004-12-09 UTCGood ★★★★
Is there not a GC preset for Vyremorn yet? It seems balanced with 14 piece-types on 132 squares, close to what is theorized for an ideal form (8-12%) most likely to be playable?

Nathan McDonald wrote on 2004-08-15 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
Still no homepage for this. 

I have been unable to find a new free-host that will not abuse visitors
with advertisements. Nor terribly thrilled with the idea of paying for
hosting, in light of the fact that my free site never garnered more than
few fresh hits a day, and that was when the Chess Variant Contest was
driving content my way.

I am very thankful that the Chess Variants Home Page has continued to
share my brainchild with those who may have some interest in the topic. 

If anybody would like to contact me, all other information is accurate.

Nathan McDonald wrote on 2002-10-17 UTC was aquired by, which quietly stopped hosting sites
without so much as a 'How-do-you-do' to its many users.

There is currently no home page for Vyremorn Chess.  My apologies.

Peter Aronson wrote on 2002-08-08 UTC
Actually, the inventor's <em>ISP</em> seems to be missing. Has anyone heard anything about lately? I couldn't find any news articles claiming it had been shutdown or anything, but I could have missed them.

Ben Good wrote on 2002-08-08 UTC
the links to the inventor's homepage for this one no longer work.  anybody
talk to nathan mcdonald lately?

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