[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Tori Shogi. Tori Shogi, or Bird Shogi. A variant of Japanese Chess on a 7 by 7 board. (7x7, Cells: 49) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Ed wrote on 2019-12-03 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I see that a new study of historical sources on Tori Shogi has been published: https://www.amazon.co.jp/禽将棋についての研究-禽将棋の背景と系統的位置づけ-MyISBN-デザインエッグ社-松本尚也/dp/4815014205/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_ja_JP=カタカナ&keywords=禽将棋&qid=1575339500&sr=8-1 I wonder if any Japanese have read the book and can comment on what new discoveries this book reveals. Dave Brandl wrote on 2017-11-10 UTCThe Way of Tori Shogi is a book that's now available, with strategies, openings, and notated games. It's at ToriShogi.com Ed wrote on 2014-05-21 UTCExcellent ★★★★★@H. G. Muller: Thank you for the update and the addition of kanji. I may be one of the masochists you mentioned, but I have always played this game with kanji, and so a long-time custom makes this a better choice for me. In all seriousness, though, I am very grateful for your chu shogi and tori shogi offerings. I hope others here get great satisfaction from them, too. H. G. Muller wrote on 2014-05-08 UTCI just updated the package, as there was a bug in WinBoard considering dropping of a Pheasant illegal. A Japanese website ( http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~cha/kotenyugi/tori_shougi/tori_syogi.htm ) mentions a different repetition rule: there the side that first created a repeated position must alter its move to prevent it is repeated for the third time, rather than the one playing out of it. Except during a check evasion; you can always evade whichever way you like. For Shokidoki I adopted the practically identical rule that it is forbidden to repeat, but that perpetual checking is even more forbidden. Ed wrote on 2014-05-06 UTCExcellent ★★★★★@H.G. Muller: Bravo! Thank you for this generous gift for tori shogi players! H. G. Muller wrote on 2014-05-06 UTC My Shogi engine Shokidoki now also can play Tori Shogi (next to regular, Judkins and mini-Shogi). In the WinBoard GUI, it currently looks as follows: The promoted pieces (not shown here) look like a cannon (+P) and a bird of prey (+Fa). WinBoard does not have bitmaps for Shogi-style kanji pieces for Tori Shogi, but of course masochistic users that would want these can define their own piece images in WinBoard (through a true-type font). BTW, the repetition rule mentioned here sounds suspect. (And I could not recognize it in a Google translation of the Japanese Wikipedia, which is even more suspect.) It would imply that a side who starts 'perpetually' checking will win the game, as when the position where his opponent was in check for the first time will finally materialize for the third time, the checked side must now vary, and consequently sacrifice his King, when he is no longer allowed to repeat the only safe evasion. This is very un-Shogi like (and percieved as rather unsatisfactory by orthodox Chess players as well). The engine + WinBoard (plus another engine, HaChu) is available in a package that supports 7 Shogi variants: Dai, Chu, Sho, regular, Tori, Judkins and mini-Shogi (plus Makruk, Shatranj and Chess-without-castling). Download Anonymous wrote on 2010-07-07 UTCHey, this game is one of 3 most popular shogi variants (with sho shogi and chu shogi)! Why there is no preset? Anonymous wrote on 2010-04-15 UTCCourious that this game have same number of piece types and same number of pieces for each type (as was noted in previous comment): 1-1-2-2-2-8 (if think that diffirent quils are same type of pieces)! Is it coincidence or Tori Shogi is invented with some influence of European chess? playshogi wrote on 2008-06-14 UTCthere is now a kanji and chess set on kurnik Pawn-swallow Queen-Falcon King-Phoenix Rook-Crane Bishop-Pheasant Knight (facing right)-Left Quail Knight (facing left)-Right Quail Douglas wrote on 2007-09-22 UTCThere is now a zillions-of-games file for Tori Shogi as well with both Kanji and bird graphics at www.zillions-of-games.com (Tori Shogi) P L wrote on 2004-08-09 UTCI have created a (free) Tori Shogi adaptation using a generic, free/open-source boardgame/wargame engine called the Vassal engine (http://vassalengine.org/) which runs on all major OSes, and allows for both online and play-by-email gaming. If you would like to give it a shot, the beta can be found in the 'Files' section of the Yahoo Group of the same name. P. 11 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.