[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Sittuyin (Burmese Chess). Missing description (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]M Winther wrote on 2012-04-18 UTCI have now improved play considerably in my Burmese Chess by tweaking the pieces. http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/burmese.htm However, it's not easy to acquire an exact description of the rules. There exist many versions, but not even the federations have published good documents. On this link, for instance, the rules are confusing. http://myachess.blogspot.se/2012/01/how-to-play-myanmar-traditional-chess-3.html According to c1 a pawn can promote upon reaching a promotion square. According to c3 it cannot promote but must wait. These are contradictory rules. I have implemented both in independent variants. "c.1 When a pawn reaches one of the promotion squares, the diagonal squares of the opponent side, it can be exchanged for a general of the same colour provided the general of the same colour no longer exists on the board. c.3 Even a pawn is qualified to be promoted, the promotion is not allowed at once just after reaching the promotion square. It can get the promotion on the next move or later of the same player." It would be great if somebody could find an exact rule description and publish it here on the Chess Variant Pages. /Mats Ed wrote on 2012-04-18 UTC@Mats: Thanks for the update to your Sittuyin ZRF. I am in admiration how quickly you can produce these improvements. M Winther wrote on 2012-04-17 UTCI have now added a variant following the rules and board pattern according to the Burmese Chess Federation (but rules are still somewhat unclear). http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/burmese.htm ... Addendum 11:35:56 EDT : and now I have tweaked the pieces to achieve better play. /Mats Daniil Frolov wrote on 2010-08-09 UTC'It is also allowed to put pieces on the positions of pawns, and then to put such pawns on other squares in the area behind the pawns original position' - is it allowed during setup phase or during moving pieces or both? zawted wrote on 2007-11-13 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I'm a myanmar (Burmese) and I love chess both international and traditional. I thought our traditional chess is not known by world. M Winther wrote on 2006-03-17 UTCI have now added the rules that, when leaving the square, a pawn is not allowed to promote if that implies capturing an enemy King or General. Also added two variants where promotion is allowed upon entering a marked square.Burmese Chess. M Winther wrote on 2006-03-15 UTCChristine, well, it is a little complicated. I just feel the play is a little 'vulgar,' with these immediate king hunts. With dice it's much better. A game which is anything but vulgar is Burmese Chess. It is a mature form of chess, less tactical than Fide chess, still quite lively. Today, I have uploaded the final version (hopefully). There are two variants of promotion rules to choose from. The game is now tweaked to play better. It actually plays quite well. Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on 2006-03-14 UTCyes, it is true on the first move, the 1st player can check with ship, and then check with pawn, and this players team mate can do the same, but believe it or not, this is a bad opening for the players giving check! they will lose a pawn, and have the worst position. the king in this game, can safety move in the open, because of no queens or bishops. Look at this example. (i'll call the bishop a ship) 1.Ship a1-c3, King a5-b4, Ship h8-f6, King h4-g5 2.h2-h3, King b4-c5, h7-h6, King g5-f4 now whatever the first player plays, he cannot stop the 2nd player taking his 'a' pawn (with rook) because the 4th player can check next move!! :)) it is the old 'i can this crazy looking move, cause my team mate can check you next move', a common tactic in 4 player chaturanga. M Winther wrote on 2006-03-14 UTCChristine, thanx for the bug reported and the appreciation. 4-handed Chaturanga is clearly designed for dice. It simply doesn't work without dice. For instance, yellow can immediately attack black's king by Boat to c3, and the black king is forced to move out, and in the next move yellow can again attack the king by a pawn move. This game was almost exclusively played with dice. Later, during medieval times, they developed 4-handed Shatranj, which is quite different. This was played mostly without dice (but still about money). This game functions quite well without dice. I strongly suspect that it is this game that is reported as having been played well into the 19th century, and not 4-handed Chaturanga (what an author argues on this site). Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on 2006-03-14 UTCthere is an error in 'help' with the elephant (bishop), it gives the moves of this piece as 'leaps 2 diagonally' great to see this game with the graphics you use, nice little collection you got going. M Winther wrote on 2006-03-14 UTCToday I have uploaded a version which honours the rule that the rooks must be dropped on the first rank, which is reserved for the rooks. But I am unsure about the promotion rule. According to Bodlaender pawns promote only when leaving the marked square, but according to Nicolaus the pawns can promote upon reaching the square. I am also uncertain whether the pawn must promote if he can. Can a pawn leave a marked square without promoting, although he is allowed to? This is how I have implemented it. I find Bodlaender's rule logical, provided that one is not forced to promote. I see no reason to promote immediately as it's better to leave the possibilities open. But I could need some input on this. Burmese Chess. M Winther wrote on 2006-03-13 UTCBurmese Chess (zrf) Anonymous wrote on 2004-03-27 UTCExcellent ★★★★★The elephants here are intriguing... Given that the elephants are highly maneuverable, almost nonroyal kings, are they more valuable than the knights? Theoretically, removed from any particular tactical situation, would you trade your knight for the opponant's elephant, or vis versa? Simon Spalding wrote on 2003-05-14 UTCGood ★★★★Nice readable introduction to this Chess variant (or rather, set of variants, as it is evident that several different versions have been played in Burma), which is intriguing historically as well as (based on my limited experience playing it alone)lively and fun to play! I highly recommend Dr. Nicolaus' paper for those wanting to know more about this very interesting Chess variant. 14 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.