[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Lance. Moves one or more squares straight forward.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Charles Gilman wrote on 2010-06-30 UTCStating that it is stronger than the Goldgeneral is a simplification. It gets weaker the further forward it moves. Look at what it is once on the eighth rank. By then promotion is more than justified. Anonymous wrote on 2010-06-29 UTCIt's very interesting piece. Itself is stronger than gold general, but as it moves only forward, it must promote. Anonymous wrote on 2010-05-07 UTCI think, 'lance' is convenient name for Europeans, as symbol wich is usually used in western sets (long arrow, pointing forward, while symbols of generals are usually short arrows, pointing in directond, where generals moves) reminds spear (but i am not sure that it's true). And that's why i prefer i prefer to call it ragnat chariot. Nevermind, i wanted to tell one interesting thing: look at this page: http://history.chess.free.fr/xiangqi.htm -it describes history of Xiang-qi, but i was interested by this paragrph (citation): 'The eldest undeniable reference for the Xianqi is the Xuanguai lu (‘Tales of the obscure and peculiar’) writen by the Tang Minister of State Niu Sengru (779-847), a collection of tales of the supernatural. One is telling the of Cen Shun dreaming of a battle to come (which was supposed to occur in 762 AD.): 'the celestial Horse springs aslant over three, the Commanders go sideaways and attack on all four sides, the baggage-waggons go straight forwards and never backwards, the six men in armour (or the men armed with six weapons) go in file but no backwards... On both sides stuff was unpacked, stones and arrows flew across.' To make it absolutely clear, these moves can be deduced from the text, but not with certainty. Since the source is unique the greatest prudence is recommended. There is just another mention in poem from Niu's contemporary and friend Bo Juyi (772-846) which explicitly evoke Soldiers and Charriots.' -description of baggage-waggons strongly reminds fragnat chariots! H. G. Muller wrote on 2010-03-27 UTCI always thought the name Lance was quite an obvious description of what the piece does: you stick it deep into the opponent to do damage. It is also easy to symbolize. WinBoard uses these symbols for it in Shogi. Charles Gilman wrote on 2010-03-27 UTCThis piece does indeed have connection with the Rook - it occupies the corners of the board, as the Rook does elsewhere, and both pieces' Shogi names refer to the Rook's origin representing a chariot. Given that link, it is strange that it gets called a Lance. Rooks (in any sense) don't have lances, knights do. I could understand if they'd called the next piece along a Lance - although to avoid confusion I avoid calling any piece Lance. Anonymous wrote on 2010-03-24 UTCThere are hystory of pieces in other piececlopedia articles! Why there is no hystory here? There at least must be written that lance is related to rook! Or it's wrong? If it's wrong, there must be written that 'some people think think that lance is related to rook but it's wrong' (i read in some articles of hystory of chess that it's related to rook). Also note that lance is wrong name, it's real name is insance chariot, it's called 'lance' in same articles, where Angle walker is called bishop (and it's not bishop at all, just have same moves)! xxx wrote on 2006-08-15 UTCWhich is better, a lance or a rook that can make side move only? Jeff Rients wrote on 2004-04-28 UTCMaking the most of bad pieces can be a lot of fun. Anyone can get a lot done with their knight+bishop+rook superpiece. Accomplishing the same task with a lame piece like the lance is much more satisfying. Higsby the Great wrote on 2004-04-28 UTCGood ★★★★Well, at least its better then the pawn. 9 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.