[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Crooked Queen. Moves in a diagonal zigzagline or like a Rook.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]George Duke wrote on 2008-11-21 UTCGood ★★★★Crooked Queen is Rook plus Crooked Bishop, zigzagging. Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-01-09 UTCGood ★★★★There are actually four kinds of half-crooked Queen. The even-length moves of the crooked Bishop are the same as the standard Rook (except with different pass-throughs), and the odd-length ones are at ever decreasing angles to the Rook; likewise the crooked Rook and the standard Bishop. Therefore Rook+Crooked Rook and Bishop+crooked Bishop are valid compounds, the latter being a colourbound but otherwise Queenlike piece. There is also a crooked Nightrider, the Quintessence of Quintessential Chess. This leads to a whole familiy of crooked and half-crooked versions of Marshrider (Rook+Nightrider), Cardirider (Bishop+Nightrider), and Acerider (Queen+Nightrider)! M. Howe wrote on 2003-01-09 UTCOh I absolutely agree that Ralph should write the crooked rook page. The whole crooked-mover idea was his to begin with -- I just borrowed it for Optima. He gets all of the credit. And Ralph is best qualified to comment on the piece's value relative to other pieces, orthodox and otherwise. I'm a big admirer of Ralph's work on CVs. Ben Good wrote on 2003-01-09 UTCdoh, i obviously still don't have all the optima pieces memorized. anyway, i still nominate ralph to write the crooked rook page. i'd do it, but i have no playing experience with it so i wouldn't be able to say much about it. M. Howe wrote on 2003-01-09 UTCIn fact the rules of Optima include a crooked rook. It's called a 'Ranger.' In the games I have seen it used it's about an average strength piece relative to the other Optima pieces, not a game-breaker at all. It's not overpowering on a crowded board because it is relatively blockable. As the board opens up it becomes stronger. Ben Good wrote on 2003-01-09 UTCi wouldn't've guessed that the crooked rook is that strong, but i've never used it. i notice there's no piececlopedia page for the crooked rook, i nominate ralph to write one. <P> i can see now how a crooked rook would dominate an 8x8 board, but i think it would be usable in larger games; i think it would work on optima, which successfully controls a lot of very strong pieces. gnohmon wrote on 2002-12-31 UTCNow, don't go off half cocked saying that the RzFF is half cooked. It's a crooked as it needs to be, as crooked as Ivar 'the match king' Kruger. A Crooked Rook is so horribly strong once the board clears out a bit that one can hardly ever use it, and therefore your Twice-as-Crooked Queen will never see the light of day -- unless perhaps in an alternate army for Tripunch Chess. Ben Good wrote on 2002-12-30 UTCExcellent ★★★★★interesting, but isn't this piece the half-crooked queen? i would think the crooked queen would be crooked bishop + crooked rook. (it would also mean there would be two half-crooked queens.) 8 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.