[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Bishop. Moves arbitrary number of unobstructed squares diagonally.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Anonymous wrote on 2010-03-19 UTCThere are many pieces called 'Elephant' (and Bishop in Russian is also Elephant), many pieces called 'Joker' (Bishop in French is also Joker), many pieces called 'Archer' (also Bishop in one of languages, i don't remember), and there is no Bishop in chess expect Bishop itself! Carlos wrote on 2005-11-18 UTCIn spanish, this piece is called Alfil. It has no other meaning than 'that chess piece that moves diagonally'. As a spanish reader, I sometimes get confused when I see the word 'Alfil' not meaning the Bishop, because this is the piece I think about when I hear that word :) Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-11-30 UTCIt would have been nice if Gergely Buglyó had posted his information while I was still trying to find out! Still, better late than never. In the context of pre-industrial armies the terms runner and messenger are fairly interchangeable. The variant with hex-prism cells and the described effect on the bishop has now been posted (http://www.chessvariants.org/hexagonal.dir/honeycomb.html). Gergely BuglyÃ³ wrote on 2004-08-24 UTCIn fact, 'futár' means 'messenger' in Hungarian, but in chess the bishop is called 'futó', which could mean 'runner' indeed. (I'm not sure if the word 'futó' is derived from 'futár'.) Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-08-02 UTCWell I have recently submitted a variant using FIDE pieces with their square-board definitions on a 3d board on which the ranks are hex boards on their sides, to preserve the square-board change-of-rank requirements as with Quadlevel but through the nature of the pieces rather than any weakening extra restrictions. Thus the Bishop in that game has no move within a hex board. Since my last comment here I have finally discovered the meaning of the Hungarian Futar. It means runner, same as the German Laufer and Dutch Loper. Breadman wrote on 2004-05-21 UTCGood ★★★★Regarding the hexagonal move, I tend to think in the same way; a Bishop's move is along diagonal lines, without regard to the distance. In general, diagonal to me indicates having two spaces that are orthogonally adjacent to each of the two spaces considered, when the two spaces considered are not themselves orthogonally adjacent. Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-04-03 UTCTo English, Portuguese, and Icelandic can be added the Celtic languages, in which this piece's name takes forms such as Easpag or Esgob, obvious derivatives of Episcopus. It is notable that all these are languages of Europe's western edge. Charles Gilman wrote on 2003-06-08 UTCIt is notable that three pieces of the type shown in the hexagonal diagram are required to cover the board, suggesting that its true nature is intermediate between the standard Bishop (2 required) and the 3d Unicorn (4 required). Indeed it is arguably more akin to Unicorn than to standard Bishop, as its move comprises steps of length root 3 and its directions, though exceeding the Bishop on a square board, are many fewer than the Bishop on a 3d board. Charles Gilman wrote on 2003-03-09 UTCThe plot thickens. In Russian the Bishop itself is known by the word for an elephant, generally transliterated as Slon and rhyming with the English Pawn. Does anyone know how they distinguish the two - perhaps Novy Slon (new elephant) for the Bishop and Stary Slon (old elephant) for the Alfil? A book I read says that the Hungarians call the piece Futar, but gives no literal meaning. Does anyone know the literal meaning? Carlos MartÃn wrote on 2002-12-16 UTCExcellent ★★★★★The article says nothing about the Spanish name of the piece, and I think it would be worth a bit of explanation about it: The Spanish name for the Bishop is 'Alfil' (which means nothing but a Bishop in Chess), and this could be misleading because there's a different piece whose English name is also 'Alfil' (also called the 'Elephant', jumps 2 squares diagonally and is found in ancient Chess variants). The Spanish name for the English Alfil is 'Elefante' which I think needs no translation :) 10 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.