[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Latest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Later ⇩Reverse Order⇧ Earlier Flying Bombers Grand Chess. The usual pieces in Chess are complimented by two Flying Bombers, which eliminate enemy pieces by flying over them! (10x10, Cells: 100) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Charles Daniel wrote on 2007-10-22 UTCIn Airplane Chess, the airplane moves both diagonally and orthogonally. There seems to be no specification or limit to its long reach power - it can jump over pieces in-between to capture the last piece in the line. I got the idea from checkers not from airplane chess. The whole reasoning between my choice for the 'immediate landing' bomber used in Birds and Ninjas rather than the extended landing bomber was that pawns are too vulnerable and easily attacked. It is not clear but I suspected that this *might* increase the number of draws. Airplane Chess will most certainly lead to higher number of draws since pawns are *much* more vulnerable than either version of the flying bomber. The nature of airplane being so difficult to defend against would make game much wilder and very different from Flying Bombers as well. The other mode of the flying bomber is essentially the Dabbabah (from which the cannon might have derived) as noted. George Duke wrote on 2007-10-22 UTCAverage 6 out of 10. Good examples from actual game positions with a sense of having played it. How does the Flying Bomber relate to Wayne Schmittberger's Airplane from year 1981, the apparent precedent for this offshoot? Probably a hundred or a thousand combinations of differing modalities are conceiveable for the general idea of a new 'flying piece'. How? Just by varying the number of empty spaces, and whether both side's pieces may be flown over, and whether following Bishop lines, Rook lines or both; or wilder multiple captures. Besides Rook mentioned, it would be interesting to hear basic comparison to simple Cannon. In general, authors should do this, not leaving comparisons to players or reviewers. What class of piece is this? Not multi-path, not leaper, not rider. For starters, it is a combination piece. As for the second leg of the combination or 'piece within a piece', two or even three distinct modalities are really not so uncommon. Some are found in Havel's Jester Chess (1999), Mad Chess (2000), Insect Chess (2001), and Kung Fu(2001). The standard move(long-range) is piece enough different from Schmittberger's to warrant this write-up, and the second modality(short-range) added may very well be an improvement after that first spin-off. But it is not clear how over-all Flying Bombers would be a betterment of Schmittberger's, whence it came whether or not all unawares. The Flying Bomber is placed more or less where Omega Chess puts new pieces thus preserving a trace of Orthodoxy to the inside. Nothing wrong with this Rules Set, maturely offering variations, but extending somewhat prolix for just the one new piece not so unique. Other CVs of budding prolificist Charles Daniel look better. Charles Daniel wrote on 2007-10-21 UTCThanks - I did not see that..The word immediately was wrong in that context and has been removed. Gary Gifford wrote on 2007-10-20 UTCCharles - Thanks for the clarification. But, I see where I got confused. In your updated rules it states: Standard Move - first line : * The flying bomber eliminates an enemy piece by flying over it, and landing on any empty square immediately after it on the same orthogonal line. It cannot fly over or capture a second piece. So that aspect of 'immediately after it' is what threw me (being different from how we played). But,as I read it now, the 'Optional' variation is the same as the new 'Standard' one. Also, Diagram 3 is for the original bommber. I think the word 'immediately' needs removed from the Standard move. Optional Variation: 'Immediate Landing' Flying Bomber A more limited version of the bomber can be used, instead. In this case, instead of landing on any square after the enemy piece, the bomber must land immediately on the first empty square after the enemy piece. The special Helicopter landing move remains unchanged. Once again, I think this is a great variant. Best regards, g Charles Daniel wrote on 2007-10-19 UTCThe 'immediate landing' flying bombers are used for future games, but for this game I have left it the same as the main variation. In any case the choice is up to the player to choose the 'immediate' or 'extended' landing flying bomber. Gary Gifford wrote on 2007-10-19 UTCExcellent ★★★★★I highly recommend this variant, especially for those who like games that are closer to traditional Fide Chess. The bigger board and cannon-like bomber pieces [with 2 modes of capture] make for a pretty exciting game. What would be a great pawn center in traditional chess can end up being a bombed target in this game... I realized this too late in my game with its inventor and had to fight hard to to escape the clutches of defeat and obtain a draw. Some players don't like draws; but I imagine draws will be rare in this game. The bombers have been modified -- so the ones we used in our game are more powerful than the ones that will be used from now on. The new bombers will make the task of defending from them a bit easier; but I did not mind the bombers the way they were. Great game. 6 comments displayedLater ⇩Reverse Order⇧ EarlierPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.