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It belongs to categories: Orthodox chess, 
It was last modified on: 2007-04-20
 By Abdul-Rahman  Sibahi. Dada. The colorbound chess variant. (7x10, Cells: 70) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Anonymous wrote on 2010-04-14 UTC
Good. Any game with royal pieces can be played like this: two normal boards of original game and duble set of pieces, expect thaet number of royal pieces is same as in original game, and royal pieces of diffirent players starts on diffirent boards. Variant: three boards, third is without royal pieces at all, but all pieces, captured on this board, costs some points, and if player captured enough pieces here, he/she can win even if his/her royal piece is checkmated (or captured, depending on game's rules). Way to indroduce lion-like piece on games with two boards is simple: piece, wich can't capture on it's board, but can capture pieces on other board by moving to square, wich correspond to square of captured piece.

Abdul-Rahman Sibahi wrote on 2007-05-01 UTC
Now, you could've easily said that from the beginning instead of this whole argument. I tested the page in Firefox and IE, and it worked in both. So. naturally, I didn't see what the problem was. You can see the diagrams in Charles Gilman's comment. The Rooks stand for Double-Dabbabahs, Bishops for Lions, Knights for Alibabas, Queen for FAD. Editing the article to be HTML is too troublesome. I have, however, added a FFEN code using the original letters of the pieces. Thank you.

M Winther wrote on 2007-05-01 UTC
In my browser, I use Opera, the ascii diagrams are misaligned and unreadable. That's a fact. Why would anybody want to publish something that is unreadable, and why wouldn't I complain? You are wrong, it does not take longer time to download a table. /Mats

Abdul-Rahman Sibahi wrote on 2007-04-30 UTC
Mats, you're completely missing the point here. I, the writer of this page, find using another program to create something i can easily and efficiently create in my browser to be an unnecessary burden. (I usually use Microsoft Word as my HTML editor, but I never liked the results.) ASCII diagrams take less time to download, and they're pretty and very obvious. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. It's that simple. Browser settings are irrelevant. Because the pages are designed in such a way so that they always show text in the Courier font unless the poster checked any of the HTML boxes under the text box. So, the ASCII diagrams shouldn't be a problem. Please, STOP this discussion, because it is pointless and leads to nowhere (since I am not changing the page.) Thank you.

David Paulowich wrote on 2007-04-30 UTC
Feel free to take this discussion to my [2007-04-28] Spotted Gryphon thread, which is independent of any game page. My first post there demonstrates that simply using 'pre' and '/pre' commands (and clicking the HTML box) formats text diagrams, which should be readable on any browser. Adding some boldface commands can also help. Anyone can click 'Edit' on one of my posts and see the code I have been using. FFEN DIAGRAMS are 100 percent invisible on my computer. Just took a look at Charles Gilman's post on another computer, with Security lowered to 'Medium'. Pretty, but now I am going back to my computer, with JAVA capability permanently locked out.

M Winther wrote on 2007-04-30 UTC
HTML-editors are freely downloadable from the Internet. If you want to create a table, then you click a button. If you can't make a gif-image, then you can use a html-table. It must be allowed to have a critical view on inferior representations, or inferior variants. It's a discussion group, remember that. The following representation of Capablanca's Chess was created in a minute. An advantage with ascii pieces is that they are immediately explained.

  R
 N
  A
 B
  Q
 K
  B
 C
  N
 R
 p
  p
 p
  p
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  p
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 p
  p
 p
  p
 p
 R
  N
 A
  B
 Q
  K
 B
  C
 N
  R

Chancellor : moves like rook or knight.
Archbishop : moves like bishop or knight.


Mark Thompson wrote on 2007-04-30 UTC
It's unfathomable to you how anyone can not know how to write HTML code? Even though it's the internet age, babies aren't born knowing how to write HTML. I agree with the author of the variant, it's much less fathomable that people are unable to read ASCII diagrams -- and yet, mirabile dictu, they're able to translate them into HTML (?). If you find the variant interesting enough to spend this much time discussing the best format for the diagrams, I'd be interested in hearing the reasons for your interest in the variant itself.

M Winther wrote on 2007-04-30 UTC
Charles, this is an ideal form of diagram, but then you have to demonstrate how to make ffen-diagrams using Java-script. Anyway, to me it's unfathomable how people in the modern world, in the Internet age, can make alphanumeric boards, which are unreadable, and where squares are misaligned. /Mats

Abdul-Rahman Sibahi wrote on 2007-04-29 UTC
Thanks for the rating and the diagrams, Charles Gilman. However, I really hope you two stop discussing how I should post my diagrams and discuss the content of the page. Thank you.

Charles Gilman wrote on 2007-04-28 UTCGood ★★★★
Or to really be economical, how about ffen diagrams? Have as look at the source code for this comment. Note that the lines right at the start of the comment are needed - I usually put them at the start of the 'Setup' section. The following version conveys the exotic character of the moves that the pieces make. Some have been used for the same piece before, for example, for the Alibaba I use the image from Ken Franklin's Leap Chess.

The following one is based on what physical equipment might be used. It has the advantage of being still shorter, but has the problem that such very familiar images strongly suggest FIDE moves!


M Winther wrote on 2007-04-22 UTC
No, it doesn't take longer time to create because you can use html templates. The below image is a html board, that is, no graphics at all. It's simply to copy the html code if you want to make an 8x8 diagram. One can use any colours or size. /Mats

 
 
 
 
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Abdul-Rahman Sibahi wrote on 2007-04-21 UTC
HTML takes more time to create .. Besides, I think the ASCII looks pretty. PS : at least I AM posting diagrams ..

M Winther wrote on 2007-04-21 UTC
Why do people use these ascii diagrams when it's so easy to create a table and put a character or piece image in each compartment? Why not utilize the eminent facilities of html? /Mats

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