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It was last modified on: 2010-01-01
 Author: Fergus  Duniho. Game Courier Tournament #4: An Introductory Semi-Potluck. A tournament to feature games good for introducing people to Chess variants.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Thom Diment wrote on 2012-05-18 UTC
Though I am not a particularly strong player, I would be extremely interested in participating should another tournament ever arise.

Gary Gifford wrote on 2011-12-10 UTC
Thanks Joe - and Congrats Carlos. I saw the Tournament 4 link on the side and it looked like it was starting in January... I suppose that was last January.

Joe Joyce wrote on 2011-12-10 UTC
Hi, Gary. I think you'll have to sign up for Tournament #5, Carlos Cetina already won #4. 

Do we have any interest in a tournament? I wouldn't mind playing in one, if the time controls aren't too tight. We could, if there weren't a very large number of entrants, use the simple control of giving several months of reserve time, and no other time at all, then start all games at once. This would guarantee an end to the tourney in the set time of twice the number of months given as reserve. I gave 5 months for the last little one I ran, and it was completed in 10 months, even though one game had to time out before it was over. I completed all my games, although I took almost 2 months off at the beginning of the tourney because all the rest of life intervened then, and I did not really feel time pressure. 

That's just one suggestion. Any time controls that are flexible enough would be fine for me. I really would not like to drop out of another tournament because I couldn't manage the time controls.

Gary Gifford wrote on 2011-12-10 UTC
I'd like to sign up for Tournament # 4 ... can I do that with this comment? Or do I need to send an e-mail somewhere? Thanks. Gary

David Paulowich wrote on 2010-08-15 UTC
Running Tournament Filter: gamecourier4 will assign ratings and 
further demonstrate Carlos Cetina's accomplishment here.  Congratulations!
 
I may not have time to play many games on this site, but I am planning 
to post a few Game Courier presets (that I have already promised).
 
Name                         Userid  GCR          Percent GCR1 GCR2
 
Carlos Cetina                 sissa 1728 16.5/18 = 91.67% 1710 1746 
Jose Carrillo        j_carrillo_vii 1604 12.0/18 = 66.67% 1586 1622 
Vitya Makov                makov333 1590 11.0/18 = 61.11% 1580 1599 
Armin Liebhart              lunaris 1562 11.5/18 = 63.89% 1529 1594 
Fergus Duniho                fergus 1533 10.0/18 = 55.56% 1521 1545 
Thomas McElmurry           crazytom 1500  8.5/18 = 47.22% 1492 1507 
Joe Joyce                  joejoyce 1467  2.5/06 = 41.67% 1469 1465 
Sam Trenholme         sam_trenholme 1383  1.0/06 = 16.67% 1389 1378 
je ju                      jejujeju 1310  3.0/18 = 16.67% 1286 1334 
Nicholas Wolff       nickwolffrated 1306  2.0/18 = 11.11% 1284 1329

Joe Joyce wrote on 2010-08-14 UTC
Lol, that's right, Carlos, pick on your poor opponents! 'I never hit a man when he's down... I kick him, 'cause it's easier!' - Rowdy Roddy Piper, professional wrestler. ;-) Let me make two observations.

These tournaments are all about blunders. It's been said that the one who loses a game of FIDE is just the one who made the last mistake. With variants, that is much truer. First, you cannot possibly know the best openings and lines in all these games, nor play them by accident. Therefore, you must be making small mistakes all the time in these games. The winner is generally the one who can overcome his own mistakes and capitalize on the opponent's mistakes the best. 

I also noticed that just about everyone else was knotted up about 3 points back. That's a tough field. And everyone who played won at least one game, indicating the potential for winning more in the future. It couldn't have been easy to kick free of that pack. I suspect the next few tournaments, at least, will be quite interesting.

Anyone else have comments on the games played?

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-08-14 UTC
Thank you very much, Joe.

Of course, I did not win the tourney... my opponents gave me it! I lost
the count of how many gross blunders they made.

The quality of the games I played is... POOR. They can be deleted and
nothing would happen. They do not exist.

About playability, the six chessvariants chosen are quite playable and enjoyable.

Joe Joyce wrote on 2010-08-14 UTC
Congratulations, Carlos! Nicely played. And congrats to everyone who played in the tournament. It looks like it was quite a battle. Sorry I had to drop out. Maybe next time. 

One thing no one has commented on yet is impressions of the various games played. Would anyone care to offer an opinion on their quality and playability?

Jose Carrillo wrote on 2010-07-30 UTC
Final tournament standings.

RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1530016.5
2Jose Carrillo1125012
3Armin Liebhart1116011.5
4Vitya Makov1107011
5Fergus Duniho1008010
6Thomas McElmurry73808.5
7Je Ju301503
8Joe Joyce21302.5
9Nicholas Wolff201602
10Sam Trenholme10501

Last results added:

- Jose defeats Fergus in a Modern Carrera's Chess game.

- Vytia defeats Armin in a Modern Carrera's Chess game.

Jose Carrillo wrote on 2010-07-22 UTC
Latest tournament standings.

RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1530016.5
2Armin Liebhart1115111.5
3José Carrillo1025111
4Vitya Makov1007110
4Fergus Duniho1007110
6Thomas McElmurry73808.5
7Je Ju301503
8Joe Joyce21302.5
9Nicholas Wolff201602
10Sam Trenholme10501

Last result added:

- Carlos defeats Vitya in a Circular Chess game.

Two Modern Carrera's Chess games left!

Fergus vs Jose and Armin vs Vitya

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-07-12 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1430115.5
2Armin Liebhart1115111.5
3José Carrillo1025111
4Vitya Makov1006210
4Fergus Duniho1007110
6Thomas McElmurry73808.5
7Je Ju301503
8Joe Joyce21302.5
9Nicholas Wolff201602
10Sam Trenholme10501
Last results added:
1)José defeats Thomas in an Hypermodern Shatranj game.
2)Fergus defeats Je Ju in a Circular Chess game.

Since the tournament is finishing the results of the games played by Joe Joyce and Sam Trenholme are also added:
Joe 1-0 Nicholas
Joe 0-1 José
Joe 0-1 Fergus
Thomas 0.5-0.5 Joe
Joe 0-1 Vitya
Je Ju 0-1 Joe

Vitya 1-0 Sam
Sam 1-0 Je Ju
Sam 0-1 Carlos
Fergus 1-0 Sam
Sam 0-1 Thomas
Nicholas 1-0 Sam


Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-07-05 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1430115.5
2Armin Liebhart1115111.5
3Vitya Makov1006210
3José Carrillo925210
5Fergus Duniho90729
6Thomas McElmurry73718.5
7Je Ju301413
8Nicholas Wolff201602
Last results added:
1)Carlos defeats José in an Euchess game.
2)Thomas defeats Armin in an Hypermodern Shatranj game.
3)Carlos defeats Thomas in a Modern Carrera's Chess game.
4)José defeats Thomas in a Circular Chess game.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-06-30 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1230313.5
2Armin Liebhart1114211.5
3Vitya Makov1006210
4Fergus Duniho90729
4José Carrillo82449
6Thomas McElmurry63547.5
7Je Ju301413
8Nicholas Wolff201602
Last results added:
1)Armin defeats Vitya in an Hypermodern Shatranj game.
2)Armin defeats Fergus in an Euchess game.
3)Thomas defeats Je Ju in an Euchess game.
4)Carlos defeats Fergus in an Hypermodern Shatranj game.
5)Armin defeats Thomas in an Ajax Orthodox Chess game.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-06-26 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1130412.5
2Vitya Makov1005310
3Fergus Duniho90549
3José Carrillo82449
5Armin Liebhart81458.5
6Thomas McElmurry53466.5
7Je Ju301323
8Nicholas Wolff201602
Last results added:
1)Je Ju defeats Nicholas in an Hypermodern Shatranj game.
2)Je Ju defeats Nicholas in a Modern Carrera's Chess game.
3)José defeats Vitya in an Ajax Orthodox Chess game.
4)Armin defeats Nicholas in a Circular Chess game.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-06-15 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1130412.5
2Vitya Makov1004410
3Fergus Duniho90549
4Jose Carrillo72458
5Armin Liebhart71467.5
6Thomas McElmurry53466.5
7Nicholas Wolff201332
8Je Ju101341
Last results added:
1)Fergus defeats Vitya in a Modern Carrera's Chess game.
2)Fergus defeats Je Ju in an Ajax Orthodox Chess game.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-06-12 UTC
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1130412.5
2Vitya Makov1003510
3Jose Carrillo72458
4Armin Liebhart71467.5
5Fergus Duniho70567
6Thomas McElmurry53466.5
7Nicholas Wolff201332
8Je Ju101251
Last result added: Fergus Duniho defeats Thomas McElmurry.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-06-03 UTC
Standings beginning the 6th last round.
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Carlos Cetina1130412.5
2Vitya Makov1003510
3Jose Carrillo72458
4Armin Liebhart71467.5
5Thomas McElmurry53376.5
6Fergus Duniho60576
7Nicholas Wolff201332
8Je Ju101251

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-06-02 UTC
Here's who will play whom for the sixth round, white listed first each time. Since this is the last round in the tournament, I have made sure that everyone got to move first in 9 out of 18 games. This has sometimes resulted in the same player moving first every time in the same game. I'm not sure it is possible to make it fair both ways, and giving each player the first move advantage in the same number of games seemed fairer. Because these pairings are based on how well we have done previously, some of you are paired with the same people for more than one game. In no case should you be playing someone at a game you have already played against that person in the tournament.

CIRCULAR CHESS

Carlos Cetina vs. Vitya Makov
Jose Carrillo vs. Thomas McElmurry
Nicholas Wolff vs. Armin Liebhart
Fergus Duniho vs. Je Ju

HYPERMODERN SHATRANJ

Carlos Cetina vs. Fergus Duniho
Vitya Makov vs. Armin Liebhart
Thomas McElmurry vs. Jose Carrillo
Nicholas Wolff vs. Je Ju

MODERN CARRERA'S CHESS

Thomas McElmurry vs. Carlos Cetina
Armin Liebhart vs. Vitya Makov
Fergus Duniho vs. Jose Carrillo
Je Ju vs. Nicholas Wolff

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-05-09 UTC
The games for the fifth round have now been assigned.

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-05-09 UTC
Here's who will play whom for the fifth round, with White listed first:

AJAX ORTHODOX CHESS

Vitya Makov vs. Jose Carrillo
Carlos Cetina vs. Nicholas Wolff
Je Ju vs. Fergus Duniho
Armin Liebhart vs. Thomas McElmurry

EUCHESS

Jose Carrillo vs. Carlos Cetina
Nicholas Wolff vs. Vitya Makov
Armin Liebhart vs. Fergus Duniho
Thomas McElmurry vs. Je Ju

EURASIAN CHESS

Vitya Makov vs. Carlos Cetina
Fergus Duniho vs. Thomas McElmurry
Jose Carrillo vs. Armin Liebhart
Je Ju vs. Nicholas Wolff

Thomas McElmurry wrote on 2010-05-06 UTC
If there is an injured party, I don't think it's me.  I was surprised by the repeat pairing but didn't realize it was a mistake.

Despite my 0-2 score, I didn't feel hopelessly overmatched in those two games.  In the first game I may have been winning, but underestimated the importance of king safety against a rampant marshal.  In the second game I had an extra pawn and a decent position until I blundered a major piece.  Even if the pairings had been different, I could have blundered against any opponent.

I don't think any correction is needed as far as I'm concerned.

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-05-05 UTC
I should add that the incentive for Jose to play an extra game of Euchess is that winning another game, even if it doesn't change his score, will improve his rating, which is the first thing I'll be using as a tie-breaker. Winning against two different people is better for your rating than winning the same game twice against the same person.

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-05-05 UTC
In looking over the previous games to decide who will play whom in the next round, I noticed that I assigned two games of Euchess to the same pair of players. This inflated the scores of the player who won both games, who is in fact the only player to win two games of Euchess so far, and possibly deflated the scores of the other player, who might have been able to win against another opponent. It is my intention to assign you different opponents for each game each round. So if I fail to do that, please let me know.

Since Tom is the injured party here, I'll let him decide what would be  best here. One option is to do nothing. As a consequence of these scores, Jose will be paired against a stronger opponent, in fact the creator of Euchess, while Tom will be paired against someone who has lost both his games of Euchess.

Another option is to include some extra games of Euchess, and let these games replace the extra one Tom and Jose played. The incentive for the other players would be the opportunity to earn an extra win. Tom would be paired with someone who has lost twice, and Jose would be paired with someone who has lost once and won once.

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-05-02 UTC
Since some of the games from the third round haven't finished yet, and I told Jose Carrillo that I would postpone his games until the 9th because he has a business trip, I'm thinking of postponing the entire 5th round until then too.

Carlos Cetina wrote on 2010-04-30 UTC
Standings today.
RankPlayerWinsTiesLossesIn ProgressPoints
1Vitya Makov70057
2Carlos Cetina61056.5
3Armin Liebhart51245.5
4Thomas McElmurry42245
5Jose Carrillo41254.5
6Fergus Duniho40444
7Nicholas Wolff20822
8Je Ju00930

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