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It was last modified on: 2006-11-05
Combo Modern Day Chess. Guard replaces the Queen. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Joe Joyce wrote on 2006-11-06 UTC
Hey, Christine - you beat me to the comment. And you're right, that guard is certainly more powerful that Tony gives it credit for. The basic 1-step guard is worth more than either knight or bishop. The 2-step piece is worth more than a rook. And it's not that bad an attacking piece, either.

Joe Joyce wrote on 2006-11-06 UTC
I think this is a rather nice game. Of course I'm prejudiced; it clearly fits the ShortRange Project. But I can't rate it because it has precedents and close relatives that Christine Bagley-Jones and I, among others, have designed. I reference 'Modern Shatranj', posted at this site, and its shatranj to chess discussion, especially steps 4 and 5 and Roberto Laviere's piece suggestion for the guard. With Roberto's 2-step general, step 5 is 'Combo Modern Day Chess'. The game mentioned for step 4 is 'Hypermodern Shatranj' which was released last weekend. You can find that ZRF and a number of closely-related others at the Zillions site under recent releases as 'The ShortRange Project'. Short descriptions of the released games may be found on this site at the end of the recently-released Piecelopedia article 'The ShortRange Project'. [Sorry I've been slow in getting pages posted here.] With that all said, I do think this is a rather nice game. And it's to be expected that extremely similar or identical games will show up more and more often. Glad to see someone else is looking at shortrange pieces. Welcome to the discussion. [And you might want to use either the double-guard or queen-2-slider icon for the guard piece in your preset, just to prevent confusion - at least, I always screw up when icons are used for different pieces.] Enjoy.

Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on 2006-11-06 UTC
well i don't understand something here, if the 'guard' can move 1 or 2 squares in any direction, it must be easily more powerful than the knight or bishop, but you say it is not as strong as these pieces ... even a piece that can move like a 'king' is more powerful than a knight or bishop. Joe and i recently put out 'the shortrange project', and in these variants we have a 'sliding general' (moves 1 or 2 squares any direction) or a 'queen-2-slider' (moves like a queen, but only 1 or 2 squares), and both of these are easily more powerful than the humble yet beautiful bishop and knight. so either i don't understand how your guard moves, or you don't realise how powerful it is :)

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