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 Author: Fergus  Duniho. Games for Game Courier. The many games you can play online with Game Courier.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Fergus Duniho wrote on 2021-01-21 UTC

Could you please check what I've done for 2 GC presets: Zanzibar-S and Teramachy? Are they correct?

No, they are missing links. Also, it is not necessary to upload an image for a Game Courier preset, because you can use an image generated by the Diagram Designer. From your preset, choose the Diagram Designer item in the Related Pages menu. This will open the Diagram Designer with an image matching the setup for your game. You can use this image on your page instead of uploading one. You may also wish to use a smaller image on this page. You may do that with the Diagram Designer by reducing its scale.

I have understood that after creating the page for the preset, I have to select "Upload or Manage Files" to upload an image, that in this case is a screen copy of the preset. (as this image is loaded when the preset is launched, why the need to upload an image already available on the site?)

Because it is not available on the site. Game Courier sometimes renders boards as HTML or CSS code, and when it does render boards as images, it stores them in a temporary directory and eventually deletes them. That's where the Diagram Designer comes in. It more or less uses the same code as Game Courier does for rendering boards as images, and it can give you a link for drawing your board.

And there I have to add the image. If I select WYSYWIG, I can attach an image. When I click the button, I am asked to enter the URL. How can I know the URL straight? Too bad it don't offer to me directly the link to the image I have uploaded.

The file manager that is provided for uploading images should be showing you the URL of each image. You may find it convenient to keep it open in a different tab than the one you're writing your text in.


H. G. Muller wrote on 2021-01-20 UTC

Perhaps we should create a 'front-end' for making it easier to post GC games and everything that goes with them. E.g. the Play-Test Applet now has a button to generate GAME code and display it, so that people can copy-paste it into a preset to automate it. But in principle it could also issue the required POST and GET requests directly, if the user would specify the name of the game and the preset first.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2021-01-20 UTC

Thank you for that. Could you please check what I've done for 2 GC presets: Zanzibar-S and Teramachy? Are they correct?

This is the problem I had:

I have understood that after creating the page for the preset, I have to select "Upload or Manage Files" to upload an image, that in this case is a screen copy of the preset. (as this image is loaded when the preset is launched, why the need to upload an image already available on the site?)

Then, I understood that I need to go back and then edit by selecting "Edit this Page." I get a page with 5 frames to be filled but only 1 is relevant here, "Introduction". The rest is not needed for a GC preset page. Then, in "Introduction" I have to type a simple sentence like "this is the preset for XXX" (this could be automated no?)

And there I have to add the image. If I select WYSYWIG, I can attach an image. When I click the button, I am asked to enter the URL. How can I know the URL straight? Too bad it don't offer to me directly the link to the image I have uploaded.

Sorry for this long description. I have tried to explain how difficult it can be when someone is not an expert to IS. I don't consider myself as a guy hermetic to technology. I wish to put more GC preset on-line. So many days to make those 2 GC only, I'm a bit discouraged, I wonder if I'm the only one to face so many difficulties for something that should be simple. Thank you for your help.


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2021-01-19 UTC

I have tried. Not sure I have understood what to do.

I have added better instructions to the script.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2021-01-19 UTC

I have tried. Not sure I have understood what to do. Indeed, I had to guess where to add the image of the preset. Frankly, this process is not easy when you make it once. When I find my Unpublished Submission, it opens the same interface than when I was composing the page for presenting the game, with several frames to be filled. I understood that for publishing a GC preset all these frames are not relevant.

Then I wonder why it is not simpler than that. It could be a simple box to check when one has developed his GC to allow that it is published. Maybe what I say is not possible.

I wish to understand that process as I plan to publish 5 or 6 more GC. Thank you for the help.


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2021-01-19 UTC

Shall I mention to report any bug to you or to me?

If you mention it at all, it should be to the author of the preset, which would be you. But it's not necessary to mention it.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2021-01-19 UTC

OK I understand. Shall I mention to report any bug to you or to me? Thank you again for your time and your patience


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2021-01-18 UTC

Step 2 asked to put description and link.

This is where you write the content of the page in HTML. So far, you have a bare link as raw text and a description of the rules. The purpose of such a page is to provide an indexed launch page for the preset. These typically include an illustration of the preset, a link to the preset, and a brief description of the preset. This page does not need to include the rules of the game. That's what the Rules page and the rules description within the preset are for. Since you have made other pages, I expect you know how to write HTML. Take a look at Hex Shogi 91 Preset for Game Courier for an example of what a typical preset page should look like.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2021-01-18 UTC

OK but it is not clear to me.

Step 1 is OK

Step 2 asked to put description and link. OK, where I put the link? Which description? The one I already put on the page describing the preset? It is not clear, I don't understand what I do.

For instance for this preset: https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Teramachy&settings=Default-Alternate

How can I publish it for everyone? Thanks


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2021-01-17 UTC

How can they get a link in this GC table in order to let people play them? Is it something I can do myself?

Yes, you can do it yourself. Create an individual webpage for each one. There are scripts for letting members create new pages. Look in the menu.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2021-01-17 UTC

I have developed GC for the series of my games:

Zanzibar-S

Zanzibar-XL

Teramachy

Gigachess II

Terachess II

How can they get a link in this GC table in order to let people play them? Is it something I can do myself?


Greg Strong wrote on 2020-11-07 UTC

You're welcome. Thank you for your patience. I have posted a Metamachy GC launch page.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2020-11-07 UTC

Just a reminder if someone could make that Metamachy is visible among the game playable. Thanks a lot


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2020-10-31 UTC

Thank you very much


Greg Strong wrote on 2020-10-30 UTC

Here it is:

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Metamachy&settings=default

Looks like we never made a Game Courier launch page for it so it is not in the index. I will take care of that.


Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2020-10-30 UTC

Hello. I can't find Metamachy on Game Courier. Has it been removed?


Ben Reiniger wrote on 2020-01-08 UTC

That's strange.  The button sends me to the correct settings according to the URL ("default") but the displayed image is that of the old settings ("Minishogi").  If I click Play or Move it takes me to the correct settings after all.

Maybe this is related to the cache issue we've had on other page types?


Armin Liebhart wrote on 2020-01-08 UTC

Thank you very much Ben,

one little note though, it appears that on the minishogi page it is not possible to choose my version, it's visible but i cannot click on the image, only on the button, which leads to the old version.

however it's possible to get to the mini shogi preset via judkin's shogi.

cheers,

Armin


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2020-01-08 UTC

Pages have authors, not inventors. Someone who programs a preset counts as an author. The inventor exclusively refers to the game inventor.


Ben Reiniger wrote on 2020-01-08 UTC

Thanks Armin!

I've added links to the settings files on the respective Preset pages:
https://www.chessvariants.com/play/minishogi
https://www.chessvariants.com/play/judkins-shogi

(I've forgotten the convention about Inventors of Preset pages...the preset author or the game inventor?  Fergus, Greg, Joe?)

Judkin's original settings file doesn't appear to actually be different from the Chess one, so perhaps it should be deleted.


Armin Liebhart wrote on 2020-01-07 UTC

Hello,

i'm putting my comment here, because i can't get through to the editors via e-mail.

I recently created two new rule enforcing presets for Mini Shogi and Judkin's Shogi and wanted to add them to the game courier game page, to make it possible for others to play them.

you can find them here:

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Minishogi&settings=default

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/pbm/play.php?game=Judkin%27s+Shogi&settings=default

 

hopefully one of the editors reads this comment and can put them there, because the actual presets are bad or not working at all.

 

Sincerely,

Armin Liebhart (lunaris)


Fergus Duniho wrote on 2015-12-08 UTC
Test comment. My session was not being recognized on play.chessvariants.com, but the comment link led to chessvariants.com, where it is working.

Fergus Duniho wrote on 2010-06-29 UTC
A preset for Chess that doesn't enforce any rules is already available for Chess. It is the default configuration for Game Courier before any changes are made, and the Editor link on the main Game Courier page will take you to it. The others aren't difficult to make if you need them. Just begin with a preset that enforces the rules and delete all the code for enforcing the rules.

Anonymous wrote on 2010-06-28 UTC
I think, it needs special presets for chess, shogi and xiang-qi, wich DO NOT enforce rules! They'll help to playtest games, played with same board pieces, but with different rules. And it's better if all 3 will have benches for captured pieces, as in shogi.

Travis Compton wrote on 2007-12-06 UTCExcellent ★★★★★
Greetings to all Chess Variant players! I have often found myself looking to play a live game on the Play By Mail Game Courier, but not able to connect with anyone that can play at the same time. So I have created a chat room (with no requirements to download any software) to help pull fellow gamers together online at the same time. The chat room address is http://www.chatzy.com/574469514839. I titled the room 'Chess Variants Lounge'. Pretty simple to access and no registration required. Hope to find some of you there looking for a live game to play.

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