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Xiangqi: Chinese Chess. Links and rules for Chinese Chess (Xiangqi). (9x10, Cells: 90) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
🕸📝Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Dec 21, 2008 12:12 AM UTC:
I'm going to share my speculations on the origin of Chinese Chess here, and since it is speculation, I am adding it here instead of adding it as part of the page content. First, I'm certain that Chinese Chess is related to Chaturanga or Shatranj in some way. Their pieces and rules are too similar for me to buy into the idea that Chinese Chess arose completely independently of the Indo-European Chess tradition. Besides that, there was trade between India and China along the silk road. So it makes sense that word of a game that had become popular in one place would spread to the other.

From my experience playing Chess, Chinese Chess, and Shatranj, it seems to me that both Chess and Chinese Chess are better games than Shatranj, and the idea arises that both may be improvements on Chaturanga or some game like it. The main problem with Chaturanga/Shatranj is that the pieces are too weak and slow, making the game long and tedious. Chess fixes this by replacing the weakest pieces with stronger pieces and by giving Pawns a double move. Chinese Chess fixes this by confining its royal piece to the palace, using the weakest pieces only for defense, and adding the Cannon, which is a fairly fast and powerful piece. The result is that Chinese Chess tends to be fast and decisive, much moreso than Chaturanga/Shatranj. Given this, it seems likely to me that Chaturanga is closer to the original game than Chinese Chess is.

Besides this, it seems more likely to me that Chinese Chess was a transformation of Chaturanga than vice versa. Consider this. Chinese Chess could be described as being played on a board of 90 points, while Chaturanga could be described as being played on a board of 64 squares. If someone in India heard the 90 points description and tried to recreate the game, he wouldn't likely make the 64 square ashtapada, but if someone in China heard about a game played on a 64 square ashtapada, he may assume from his experience with Go that pieces go on the intersections instead of inside the squares. This might immediately lead him to thinking that the game has two Counselors instead of just the one in Chaturanga. If he also heard that the game had 16 pieces to each side, he might have thought that 7 Pawns didn't seem right, settle on 5 as the more natural number for a rank of 9 points, and then assuming that his information on Chaturanga had been garbled, set to work trying to think of what the two remaining pieces might be. Splitting the board in two, thereby adding an extra rank, and the other changes may have followed from attempts to improve the game.

One last point concerns the names Chaturanga and Xiangqi. The former, meaning the four branches of the military, seems like a name the original creator might naturally give to a war game. The latter, meaning elephant strategy board game, seems to have been named for one feature that perhaps struck someone as unusual or significant. This example of synecdoche in naming is the sort of name I might expect from people who adopted a game from another culture. Even the English name of Chess is an example of synecdoche, for it goes back to the Persian Shah, meaning King.

My speculations have been based on an analysis of the games and their names. If it were contradicted by historical or archaeological evidence, that evidence would be more relevant. Although there are those who would disagree with my conclusions, my conclusions are in line with the received opinion that the origins of Chess and Chinese Chess go back to Chaturanga.

H. G. Muller wrote on Wed, Oct 15, 2008 06:34 PM UTC:
Standard Staunton-style piece set for the Westernized representation of this game:


Anonymous wrote on Sat, Sep 13, 2008 08:37 AM UTC:
I think you should add the rules about handicap game.
Usually, the stronger player will play first and remove one or more of his
pieces, but sometimes he can get something back to avoid a much too unfair
game:
1.If a player removes a Knight, and move his Rook nearby to that place
('Rook out of the Forest'), it will be covered by an enemy Cannon, but
the enemy Cannon cannot capture it.
2.If a player removes both Knights, his central Pawn ('Solid Pawn')
cannot be captured before it makes at least one move, unless the capture
is with a check.
3.If a player removes one Cannon, his other Cannon cannot be captured
before it makes at least one move.
3.If a player removes a Rook, his Cannon and Knight cannot be captured
before it makes at least one move.

chesscape.com wrote on Thu, May 29, 2008 09:50 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
I like this site: http://www.chesscape.com Play Chinese Chess against people for free!

Me wrote on Fri, Feb 22, 2008 08:47 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Thanks!! This is great!! I already played and whew!! It is very good.

M Winther wrote on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 07:54 AM UTC:
My Zillions implementation of Chinese Chess plays a good game, it also has Western style pieces as an option:
http://hem.passagen.se/melki9/chinesechess.htm

Mats

Anonymous wrote on Fri, Dec 28, 2007 01:07 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
A useful resource. Thanks for the website.

SCRIBD wrote on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 11:18 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Download a Free Xiangqi Book

http://www.scribd.com

[I have removed the link as it appears to be a copyrighted work. Please do
not post such links on our site. Thanks. --Editors]

Randy wrote on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 02:26 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
beginner searching for info - great resource

151 wrote on Fri, Apr 6, 2007 12:18 PM UTC:Average ★★★
I want to play see how good I am

Gary Gifford wrote on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 01:38 PM UTC:
If you like Chinese Chess, be sure to look at Korean Chess, if you haven't already. Korean Chess can be played with a Chinese Chess set, even though the later makes no use of the river. It allows for different starting setups and has more dynamics which result from subtle changes to the rules. Both games are challenging, with Chinese Chess being the game most often played in the world.

heartno1 wrote on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 09:38 AM UTC:
hi like it

chesscape.com wrote on Sun, Feb 18, 2007 03:13 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Thank you for the link: http://www.chesscape.com This is a great site to play Chinese Chess with other online players. This site has a very easy to use interface and free of commercial advertisements. It's great and I think Chesscape should be added to the Chinese Chess link so other reader can go there and play as well. Nice found! Thank you!

chesscape.com wrote on Sat, Feb 17, 2007 09:23 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
I found this nice website to play Chinese Chess (totally free) against other players online or pratice against the computer. Go check it out: http://www.chesscape.com

Sonia wrote on Sat, Nov 4, 2006 04:01 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
I was just wondering if there's a different way to play Chinese Chess!

Jazz wrote on Wed, Oct 25, 2006 09:53 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Thanks a bunch, mate. I bought a set without rules and you've given me a huge memory aid. Cheers.

Marek Futrega wrote on Sat, Oct 21, 2006 05:17 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
Play Xiangqi section misses http://www.kurnik.org
(one of the few places where you can play this game against other people
with non-Chinese user interface)

Anonymous wrote on Thu, Oct 5, 2006 02:41 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Now I finally know how to play 'that funky chess game with cannons!' SWEET! This is pretty cool and I think i'll try making some pieces and board. I might even end up making Xianqi in wood. I have to say, having not only the rules and game set-up but western equivalent names and the setup with westernized pieces, all rocks! You could possibly add pictures demonstrating each piece's moves and stalemates. Now don't think that your explanations are hard to follow, in fact they are extraordinarily easy to follow compared to most stuff I've read. Nice job.

D.Nicholas wrote on Thu, Jul 6, 2006 10:34 PM UTC:

In reading the page on chinese chess which I delight in playing I observed that you attribute different two chinese language titles to the game. Actually there is only the one in so much as the Mandarin written title is the only chinese title and the Cantonese pronunciation (Cantonese is not a written language - except in bastardised script based on sound) the game is known as Jeung Kei (Jeunhg Kay, as you have it) which to put it another way is written by the Cantonese speaker in the same character form as that in Mandarin (the only true written language).

Hope this is of assistance should you consider any revision of text.

I enjoyed your site and the variant described.


Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Sun, Jun 18, 2006 05:59 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
hey here is another 'good' rating for an 'excellent' game :)

Fire_Dancer wrote on Fri, May 26, 2006 11:34 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
very good for me to know. Now i can play chinese chess. :)

Beauty_fire wrote on Fri, May 26, 2006 12:53 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Very interesting

KID wrote on Sun, May 14, 2006 03:29 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
a lot of good info good for my chess report

The_Beast wrote on Wed, May 10, 2006 02:19 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Thanks for the page!

One small suggestion would be a mention of Gabriel's totally different offering as Chinese Chess. As someone might pick it up in a thrift store, and find they'd made a mistake based on your excellent description, a warning seems considerate.

Mind you, Gabriel's version fascinates me as no one 'owns' pieces.


C.S. Graves wrote on Fri, May 5, 2006 06:06 PM UTC:BelowAverage ★★
I love xiangqi, and I'd like to see 'mao' on this page finally changed to 'ma'. Referring to the horse in xiangqi as a 'mao' caused me no small amount of embarassment when playing with a young Chinese woman at our weiqi club! Let's make this page an accurate source of information, rather than continuing to cite an author who was mistaken.

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