[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Earliest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Comments/Ratings for a Single Item Earlier ⇧Reverse Order⇩ Later Sho Shogi. Historic predecessor of shogi. (9x9, Cells: 81) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Anonymous wrote on 2004-10-03 UTCDoes it count as bare king if a player has both a King and a Crown Prince? Ola Sassersson wrote on 2020-04-11 UTCThe Japanese Wikipedia article on Sho Shogi also describes Asakura Shogi, which is the "missing link" between Sho Shogi and modern Shogi, played with both suizou and drops. To prevent complications, a captured suizou leaves the game entirely and may not be dropped; the same goes for the king of a player with a promoted suizou. I think the existence of Asakura Shogi casts some doubts on the idea that the removal of the suizou and the introduction of drops are inherently linked. Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on 2020-04-13 UTCExcellent ★★★★★Very good information! What is not clear for me at the moment if that Asakura shogi is a reconstruction of a possible step in the evolution of shogi, or if that form of game is really asserted and supported by historical proofs. I may ask a specialist that I know. Thank you again. 3 comments displayedEarlier ⇧Reverse Order⇩ LaterPermalink to the exact comments currently displayed.