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Griffon. Historic piece that steps one space diagonally then slides like a Rook.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]

Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 11:22 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

This page, and all which are related, is very well done.
I love the Griffon with its asymetrical move which makes it so
interesting.
I use it in my variants and I would like to mention that I also use a
 'half-griffon', that I name a 'Ship' in my TAMERLANE 2000 and GIGACHESS
The Ship is a kind of vertical-only Griffon, a nice (not too strong) piece

for fork attack. Also asymetrical, like a Ship which can not easily
return
against the wind...
The Ship is between the Bishop and the Rook in term of power.

Anonymous wrote on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 02:09 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

I think there should be a remark on spelling, the word griffin (my
prefferred spelling) occurs on www.chessvariants.com as griffin, griffon,

gryphon or even gryphion (and probably other variations as well). Grffins
and hippogriffs also occur in Mark heedens Io chess, the griffin is also
in
Ganymede chess and Europan chess.

Mark Heddens hippogriff is Griffin + Rook (a Reaper in Ralph Betza's
tripunch chess) -- so different from the hippogriff described here.

A last note: The griffin is also a heraldic animal, and artist (making
chess fonts or variant chess set) may want to look at
http://home.planet.nl/~artrako/Algemeen/Grijpvogels-EN.html -- nice
griffin art.

--J'org Knappen

📝Ben Good wrote on Tue, Jul 23, 2002 03:38 PM UTC:

there is a remark on spelling.  i consulted several dictionaries on
spelling and i found virtually no indication that any particular spelling
is preferred.  i used 'griffon' because it's the one i've run into the
most in my life.  'gryphion' does not show up in the dictionary i have
here, altho it is not an unabridged dictionary, so i will have to check
in
another dictionary when i get a chance.

i can add mention of hadden's games to the page.  keeping track of what
pieces appear in what games is an extremely difficult proccess.

Anonymous wrote on Fri, Sep 13, 2002 06:31 AM UTC:

I propose renaming the piece described here
as hippogriff into zurafa. This term is used by Jellis
to discriminate the Tamerlane chess piece from the 
giraffe ((1,4)-leaper).

Jörg Knappen

William Overington wrote on Sat, Sep 14, 2002 03:26 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

Can anyone say what is the meaning of the word zurafa please?  I have
looked in a number of web dictionaries but cannot find it.

Anonymous wrote on Mon, Sep 16, 2002 07:42 AM UTC:

zurafa means giraffe in some oriental languages (without checking
I am not sure which ones apply).

--JÖorg Knappen

Anonymous wrote on Tue, Sep 17, 2002 09:29 AM UTC:

Zurafa is arabic meaning giraffe (and being the etymological 
source for the word 'giraffe').

--Jörg Knappen

Anonymous wrote on Sun, Jan 14, 2007 10:18 PM UTC:Good ★★★★

In the 6x6-board demonstration of the gryphon's move, an impossible situation is shown. A gryphon at b1 checks the king at c5 (and - irrelevantly- attacks the rook on g2). If the black king is in check on white's move, white can simply take the black king! This is illegal, and implies that the black king either moved into check or refused to move out of it(both of which are illegal).

John Ayer wrote on Tue, Jan 16, 2007 02:07 AM UTC:

The griffon is not a leaper, so the black king is not in check.

Anonymous wrote on Sun, Jan 21, 2007 03:19 PM UTC:

I was talking about a gryphon on b1, not a6. From b1, it can move diagonally to c2, then continue straight upward to c5. Note that no pieces obstruct this movement. Also, according to the description, black's king would have to have been on c5 when the gryphon was on b1.

David Paulowich wrote on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 01:26 PM UTC:

QUOTE: 'In the diagram below, white has just moved his Griffon from b1 to a6.'

Yes, the Black King on c5 would have already been in check from a Griffon on b1. We should change the starting square of the Griffon to f5, making everything legal.

George Duke wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2016 04:09 PM UTC:

The Hippogriff of Tamerlane Chess is explained on the same Griffon page of Jeremy Good. Hippogriff moves like earlier Gryphon/Griffon/(different spellings), but is excluded from the nearby squares, that is those within the 7x7 square perimeter. Since also blockable, Hippogriff is subset of Gryphon.

1283 was year of publication of Grande Acedrez with first use of Gryphon. Timur Lenk, inventor of namesake Timur's or Tamerlane Chess (1336-1405) has Giraffe as Hippogriff, the classic Gryphon that is excluded from those near squares. So there was a hundred years to ponder better implementation of Gryphon into Hippogriff. We can presume intellectual transfer of ideas from Spain to Persia, just as there was trade continually between Inuit Arctic and Siberia. https://www.google.com/search?sa=G&hl=en&q=gustave+dor%C3%A9&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSlQEJJONZ7scbvBUaiQELEKjU2AQaAggCDAsQsIynCBpiCmAIAxIo_1BHoEb4XzAv7EbIcuhbGD7kLkwy5OrU62D7XPr46uDr8Ldks_1y20Ohow8XOAb2THltHscfBShsKNZ48M1-z-jR2xsQ0CbEuLXPHMIVWT14Wi0srN9dfMhUs3IAQMCxCOrv4IGgoKCAgBEgQPwcxyDA,isz:l&ved=0ahUKEwi_5f-G2pzQAhXoyFQKHRL7APsQ2A4IHigE&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=Ackhrp7O_-BASM%3A

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