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Navia Dratp. An upcoming commercial chess variant with collectible, tradable pieces. (7x7, Cells: 49) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Jared McComb wrote on Wed, Jan 25, 2006 01:01 PM UTC:
It's too expensive for me too -- although my brother and I
would love to get into it.  I guess we'll have to wait for a video game
release.  ;)

Tim Luptak wrote on Wed, Jan 25, 2006 05:00 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
After a year or more of obscurity, Navia Dratp is starting to finally take
off.

The new 'Resurgence' set was released in fall, 2005, bringing the total
number of figures to 50.  The new figures are not only totally playable,
but have made the metagame extremely challenging as well.  There is now a
piece which can drain your opponent's gyullas, and also a
'super-queen'
that can move and jump in any direction (although it is expensive to
bring
out).

There's no doubt that ND's popularity was adversely affected by the
miniatures game glut of the past 4 years.  Many gamers had looked at the
game before and decided that it was 'one game too many to spend my money
on'.  But where other games continue to expand beyond their
enthusiasts'
ability to keep up with the ever-growing number of figures, ND remains a
small, balanced, and well-thought-out game.  Our local game store has
begun running weekend tournaments, and the number of participants has
been
growing steadily each week.  If you haven't tried playing yet, there has
never been a better time to start.

Kevin wrote on Fri, Feb 25, 2005 08:01 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
This game is absolutely, unbelievably incredible.

A lot of the various chess variants seem too esoteric to pay much
attention to, but Navia Dratp at least has a nationwide marketing push
and
relatively wide store availablity.  With a little grassroots effort, you
could pretty easily expect to be able to walk into a game store on a
weekend and find a game.

But here's the important part - the game is GOOD.  The game is easy to
learn but the strategy is intense and very deep.  Unlike most collectible
games, the luck factor only factors in when you purchase boosters; the
gameplay itself is completely strategic.  New players will find
themselves
at a significant disadvantage until they learn the mechanics and piece
interaction.

I don't particularly care for chess, but I am absolutely in love with
Navia Dratp.  Everyone here needs to go out and get it, no exceptions. 
Don't let this one slip by.

James wrote on Mon, Jan 10, 2005 11:16 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
I love the idea of a four hand Navia Dratp game. I hadn't put much
thought
into the idea, but had the seed planted soon after playing a few games.

I think I'd design the board differently, but I like your idea of
capturing three Navias and allowing the opponent whose Navia was captured
to remain in play.

Thanks for a fun website!

Anonymous wrote on Thu, Dec 2, 2004 09:23 PM UTC:
This seem simular to Vantage Master.Consider the following:
They both have absurd names.
They both start with no pieces but the 'Kings' on the board and add more
later.
They both have special cells on which you get more energy to summon the
aforementioned pieces.
They both involve collecting.

vamprieyu wrote on Fri, Sep 17, 2004 01:23 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
After I found this game last week, I can't stop playing it. However,
there
are a problem happening when I play with my friends. 
It's a moving (compass) problem. Like Hansa,  no 023
(http://www.naviadratp.com/char/m_hansa.html), before Dratp can he
'Jump' over one piece (either mine or oppenent's) and land on the
second space? 
Also Troll , No-001 , we also have an argument after she dratps. 
Can anyone please help this kind 'blocking problem'?

Jared McComb wrote on Thu, Sep 9, 2004 06:32 PM UTC:
The crystals are called gyullahs, and gold ones are worth 20, not 30. Also the pawns are called gulleds.

Firefly wrote on Mon, Sep 6, 2004 04:03 PM UTC:
I just found out about this game yesterday, and looked at the main website. It has everything you'd need to play, including the abilities of every piece, except that it doesn't mention which pieces are Navia Guards. I found another site that lists all the pieces in the starters, so I know that Troll (M-001) and Olip (M-008) are Guards, but are any of M-015 through M-029 also Guards? <p>I don't have IM, but I'd love to play by email, or maybe on Vassal (I think I'd prefer email though). Contact me at [email protected] if you're interested. I don't own any pieces yet, but I've already picked out a 'dream team' that I'd like to try.

Erick wrote on Thu, Sep 2, 2004 05:52 PM UTC:
The Navia Dratp website is now live... each piece is listed with a
background and remarks if needed for gameplay:

http://www.naviadratp.com

📝Matt Arnold wrote on Fri, Aug 27, 2004 01:36 PM UTC:
I usually leave my login going in the Tori Shogi room on the Vassalengine server, but sometimes I forget to turn it off when I sleep or leave home. Sorry for any confusion that might have caused. Let's face it, we are never going to find each other by accident. We need to either schedule a time or exchange instant message handles. My handle on all the main IM services is nemorathwald. Feel free to message me to set up a game!

JEREMY C wrote on Fri, Aug 27, 2004 03:27 AM UTC:
Anyone even go to vassal? I've gone on and there are rarely people on, and I'm rather disappointed because I want to play some Navia. Matt Arnold, your name is always up on shogi, are you really on all the time? If anyone is into playing Navia on the vassal engine, let me know when you are ususally on. Otherwise I'm even willing to play over an IM using chess notation or something.

alain wrote on Thu, Aug 26, 2004 11:11 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
on 20040826 it is now uncomplete.
I am searching for the movements of the other pieces

Robert Pedroza wrote on Tue, Aug 24, 2004 10:45 AM UTC:
For those outside of the U.S. and still trying to acquire Navia Dratp feel free to drop me an e-mail. I know of a seller that ships internationally and may very well be able to help you out as long as supplies of the game last here. They charge very near actual shipping costs from the U.S. to most international destinations. I've heard this game has become quite the hot product following the Gen Con Indy convention this past weekend. [email protected]

P L wrote on Tue, Aug 24, 2004 07:14 AM UTC:
Reminder: there is now a Yahoo group to discuss this game, and much more:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/navia_dratp_enthusiasts/

Anonymous wrote on Sat, Aug 21, 2004 12:35 PM UTC:
Mid august has come and gone and still there's hardly any info on this
game available.
The official website is still 'coming soon'.
I'm disappointed.
I was really looking forward to it though ..... I doubt the game will be
available any time soon in Belgium.

P L wrote on Fri, Aug 20, 2004 04:03 AM UTC:
Jeremy, thanks for the offer! Since mine are due very soon, and I won't be
able to do anything until then (turning in for the night), it may not be
worth the time and trouble to e-mail back and forth. Should there be
another delay though (over the weekend grrrr) I'll certainly take you up
on your offer. 

I'm looking forward to playing myself, due to the absence of any local
gamers (at the only local gamestore they still think ND is something new
shown for the first time at the GenCon...)

P L wrote on Fri, Aug 20, 2004 03:52 AM UTC:
Robert, Thanks for the pics. The paintjobs leave room for improvement, like
the Navias, but they are certainly pretty good for (sort of) mass-produced
minis.
It will be interesting to see to what extent they can be improved upon by
painting spares of the 'regular' version myself (and others who have
announced interest in doing so) A folder for pictures of those has already
been set up at the Yahoo group...

As for easy to collect, at one per box (of 12), that would _still_ be a
rather expensive endeavour :| , not counting the chances of getting a
double  in the minimum of 29 boxes required ;) I think I'll forget about
getting a complete set of those...

P.

(I may post a summary of this discussion at the Yahoo group, since at
least one new member has shown up asking about a figure list and such)

Robert Pedroza wrote on Fri, Aug 20, 2004 02:20 AM UTC:
PL, I have joined your Yahoo group and uploaded my pictures in an album called Painted Maseitai - Navia Dratp.

Robert Pedroza wrote on Fri, Aug 20, 2004 02:16 AM UTC:
Jeremy, both the painted Maseitai and the booster Navia seem to appear 1 in every 12 boosters. Navia Dratp come in a case of 12 booster. If you buy a full case you should expect to get 1 painted Maseitai, 1 rare Navia (N-003 or N-004), and nearly two complete sets of the unpainted Maseitai numbered 15-29. The small set of figures are not all that collectible (or some would say they are very easy to collect) with only 33 pieces, but compare this to other miniature sets that may have only 20 to 30 different mini sculptures yet have 80 to 120 different pieces to collect. This set has 33 *different* high quality sculptures, and the 33 pieces is more than enough to add enough variety to this game. Still from a collectors standpoint I'd love to see future expansions.

Jeremy C. wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 10:04 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
P_L, I already have scans of the board if you want it. Like I said I was doing it in flash. If you want me to take pics let me know. I can also scan. Really, anything you want help on, let me know. Anxious to play online.

P L wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 05:47 PM UTC:
Hi Jeremy,
I managed to get the main structure of the game finished, but the most
time-consuming part will be a couple of board element scans and especially
taking digipics of the pieces, since I will finally receive my own set
tomorrow. Unfortunately, I'll have a couple of really busy days ahead of
me, but depending how things go, I might get around to it by Sunday, so
perhaps in the evening, otherwise it'll be maybe a couple of days later
at most.

As far as trading goes, you might try the Yahoo group I set up, maybe the
few members so far will be interested in trading directly too, and
hopefully trustworthy enough. I admit that personally I have little
experience in the matter, but would think that trading one for one any
piece of the same rarity as per Bandai's list (?) should be fairly
straightforward...

P.

Jeremy C. wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 12:00 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
P_L, what is your approx. time for haveing the online version done? Do you
need any help? I'm a graphic designer by profession, so if you need
anything, like graphics or scanning...anything, let me know.

These are the figures that I have after 2 starters and 6 boosters.
N-1, 2, 4      M-1 through 14, M-16, M-17x2, M-18x2, M-19 through 22
M-24, M-25x2, M-26 through 28, M-29x2

I also have a slight problem with ND now. Its not major, just annoying. I
bought six boosters and I didn't get a single patined figure other than
a
Navia. What is the rare distribution?

Second, and this is good to me, I don't see this game as very
collectible. I almost have the entire set. I am short 3 total with 1 of
those being a Navia, which I could care less about. And since you can't
duplicate unless one of those is a rare painted, there is really no other
figure I need or want. As long as you get one, which you can probably
pick
up on ebay now for like 2-5 bucks. Ebay will eliminate buying boosters
for
me now. After buying the boosters this first time, and seeing a few figs
that I won't use, I'll just buy the ones I want on ebay. I think the
cost of keeping up with this game will be very low considering how many
actual figures there will be in each set. This starting one only has like
33 total pieces - very low count. An there are a few that I wouldn't
mind
getting rid of.

P L wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 08:38 AM UTC:
Announcement: Creation of a Yahoo group for people interested in Navia
Dratp
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/navia_dratp_enthusiasts/

I guess I have too much time on my hands ;) One thing I want to be clear
about is that I don't mean that group to be in some sort of competition
with this one, and I think this one will perhaps remain a little more
mature, especially if ND should ever really catch on.

However, the _free_ benefits of the NDE Yahoo group are, as with every
group there: the searchable archive, the free file storage area (which I
set up to include a folder for peoples' tradelists), picture gallery
(for, among others, their own custom paintjobs people have talked about
here) etc. It should be a nice complement to this one.

I also uploaded my Tori Shogi adaptation, which is more easily accessible
since membership is open for now (unlike the Vassalengine group) If
nothing else, it will allow you to test the Vassalengine/Java setup on
your machine if you are interested in trying out the ND adaptation I plan
on releasing in the future.

P.

P L wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 08:25 AM UTC:
Much appreciated, Robert!
As announced in my other post, I finally started my first Yahoo group, in
a surge of, erm, enthusiasm (bad pun, you'll see). Like all groups, it
includes also a gallery, and I already created an album for people to put
pictures of their rare captures in ;) 
If you're up to it, you can upload them there (it's easy to register,
for now I have left membership open)

P.

Robert Pedroza wrote on Thu, Aug 19, 2004 06:40 AM UTC:
P_L, I found both the Yeti and the Monster of Loch Ness, and oddly enough they were hiding in my Navia Dratp booster packs. I took some time out to attempt to take a few photos (at least the best I could take) of some of the Navia Dratp, Bandai painted chase playing pieces I have. I have sent them to both the graphics e-mail address for chessvariants and Matt Arnold. Hopefully one or the other will have a chance to possibly post them for you.

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