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Symmetric Chess. (Updated!) Variant with two Queens flanking the King and Bishops Conversion Rule. (9x8, Cells: 72) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
💡📝Carlos Cetina wrote on Sun, Nov 17, 2019 07:30 PM UTC:

Thanks, H.G., for your posting. I will comment something later. Rightnow I'm leaving home.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Nov 17, 2019 06:35 PM UTC:

Treating the Bishop conversion rule as a piece-type change in the Interactive Diagram through a custom function WeirdPromotion() embedded as JavaScript in the HTML page:

  function WeirdPromotion(x1, y1, x2, y2, promo) {
    var piece = board[y1][x1]; // moved piece
    var type = piece & 511;    // strip off color and virginity bits
    if(type == 6) {            // convertable Bishop
      promo = piece - 3;       // demotes to Bishop
      var partner_x = 8 - x1;  // start location of other
      if((board[y1][partner_x] - piece & 2047) == 0) // contains same piece (igore backround color flags)
        board[y1][partner_x] = ((x1 ^ x2 ^ y1 ^ y2) & 1 ? piece - 3 : piece + 1); // demote partner to B or W
    } else if(typ == 7) promo = piece - 4; // converting Bishop always promotes to Bishop
    return promo;
  }
files=9 promoChoice=NBRQ graphicsDir=../graphics.dir/alfaerie/ whitePrefix=w blackPrefix=b graphicsType=gif squareSize=54 symmetry=none pawn::::a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,i2,,a7,b7,c7,d7,e7,f7,g7,h7,i7 knight:N:::b1,h1,,b8,h8 bishop::::, rook::::a1,i1,,a8,i8 queen::::d1,f1,,d8,f8 Convertable Bishop:B:BW:promotedbishop:c1,g1,,c8,g8 Converting Bishop:B:W:wazir:, king::::e1,,e8

💡📝Carlos Cetina wrote on Thu, May 2, 2019 01:06 PM UTC:

Today, five years after having released this variant, it’s opportune to recapitulate what has happened and make a sort of balance.

There are 119 finished games recorded in the Game Courier database, of which 114 are games that I played with different opponents, while the remaining 5 were played by other people (although some of these 5 are plaged with illegal moves).

1 Сергей Бугаевский – per hommerberg [per31-cvgameroom-2018-230-424]

2 Сергей Бугаевский – per hommerberg [per31-cvgameroom-2018-230-425]

3 Play Tester – per hommerberg [per31-cvgameroom-2018-235-544]

4 per hommerberg – Play Tester [per31-cvgameroom-2018-247-532]

5 per hommerberg – Aurelian Florea [per31-cvgameroom-2018-342-417]

My performance against my various opponents is the following:

 

Total Games

Wins

Draws

Defeats

1

Kevin Pacey

33

5

10

18

2

Vitya Makov

13

10

0

3

3

Сергей Бугаевский

11

10

1

0

4

wdtr2

8

8

0

0

5

Aurelian Florea

8

8

0

0

6

per hommerberg

8

7

0

1

7

Bogot Bogot

5

4

1

0

8

Jeremy Hook

4

4

0

0

9

Jarid Carlson

3

3

0

0

10

Colin Weaver

3

3

0

0

11

José Carrillo

2

2

0

0

12

Jeremy Good

2

2

0

0

13

sxg

2

2

0

0

14

Gary Gifford

1

1

0

0

15

Joe Joyce

1

1

0

0

16

Nick Wolff

1

1

0

0

17

erik

1

1

0

0

18

Pat Quexionez

1

1

0

0

19

DJ Linick

1

1

0

0

20

Sagi Gabay

1

1

0

0

21

xxman

1

1

0

0

22

Vitaly Rabitz

1

1

0

0

23

Bn Em

1

1

0

0

24

Николай Сокольский

1

1

0

0

25

Kacper Rutkowski

1

1

0

0

 T  O  T  A  L

114

80

12

22

 

In view of the little interest that there is in chess variants, I would say that 119 games in 5 years is not so bad; they are almost 24 per year, that is, 1 every 15 days!

Anyway, in order to attract more fans I just created a channel on YouTube where I will regularly upload videos showing games that have been played here in Game Courier so that viewers can easily and conveniently see in a few minutes the full development of a game. For optimal viewing I recommend see them in full screen mode. I have started with the first two games of the long and endless match that I have with my dear friend Kevin Pacey.

Carlos Cetina vs Kevin Pacey (Game 1)

Kevin Pacey vs Carlos Cetina (Game 2)


Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Oct 3, 2017 01:52 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

The interesting bishop's conversion rule makes this variant tricky to handle in the opening stages. On a 9x8 board, bishops are only clearly slightly better than knights, the development of which can also be tricky to decide on. The extra queen per side make this a variant rich in possibilities.

My tentative estimates for the piece values of this variant would be: P=1; N=3.5 approx.; B=3.75; R=5.5; Q=10.25 and the fighting value of K=3.5 approximately (though naturally it cannot be traded). Note that a N has slightly less excellent central squares on an empty 9x8 board compared to on a 10x8 board (in Capablanca Chess I rate also rate a N as worth 3.5 approx., but actually a little less than on 9x8 when not rounding to the nearest 0.25), but the 9x8 board being somewhat smaller seems to at the least offset this IMHO, as a N can have a slightly easier time getting from one extreme flank to the other.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, May 6, 2014 10:58 PM UTC:
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Ben Reiniger wrote on Tue, May 6, 2014 07:03 PM UTC:
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