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🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 07:03 PM UTC:
The rules and the preset description are normally two separate pages,
though some people write them as one. When they are separate pages, they
must belong to the same group to both show up in the Related Pages submenu.
You should look for them in the Related Pages>Primary submenu. They will be
labeled by the page names, not as Rules or Preset.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 07:00 PM UTC:
Internet Explorer 8 provides two different ways to accept this site's
cookies without accepting all cookies, and it provides one additional way
to accept this site's session cookie without accepting it's other cookie.
In Tools>Internet Options>Privacy>Advanced, you can check "Always allow
session cookies." This will not allow your browser to accept the cvpuser
cookie, but that one is not nearly as important as the session cookie.
There are two other ways to accept all our cookies. In Tools>Internet
Options>Privacy>Advanced again, select Prompt for "First-party Cookies,"
then when prompted tell it to always accept cookies from this site. Or just
go to Tools>Internet Options>Privacy>Sites and enter
"http://www.chessvariants.org/" for "Address of website" and click
Allow.

M Winther wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 06:45 PM UTC:
I still have problems finding a link back to the preset description, that
is the "Rules".
/Mats

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 01:59 PM UTC:
M Winther,

I have now programmed the header to use the URL provided for the rules to
determine the ItemID used for the Related Pages submenu. The rules to the
game will be found there, along with a link to the preset page and other
related pages.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 01:09 PM UTC:
Charles,

The policy of rejecting all cookies is what is backwards. You don't have
to make rejection of cookies an all-or-nothing matter. You can put sites
you trust on a whitelist while continuing to reject cookies from other
sites by default. All the cookies used by this site are perfectly safe and
harmless and contain no confidential information. All the confidential
information is contained in a session, which exists on the server, not the
client. Also, the cookies used by this site cannot be read by other sites.
The cookies are simply used to identify you across multiple pages, so that
you don't have to keep signing in for everything, and, EVEN MORE
IMPORTANTLY, so that I can eventually offer greater functionality that
depends on the ability to recognize you. This is all leading toward the
goal of a site-wide game rating system, and it will not work without the
ability to use cookies to recognize you. So just put this site in a
whitelist for accepting cookies.

M Winther wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 12:00 PM UTC:
I still can't find the "Rules" button for the preset, although it looks
nice with this drop-down menu. The "Rules" button should take you back to
the description of the preset. It is very useful.
/Mats

Charles Gilman wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 05:50 AM UTC:
"When you post to a subject thread, it consults the login function directly to determine whether you can post. This function will check that you have entered the correct password for your userid, and it will create a session for you. But whether or not that session stays around will not affect whether you get to post your comment to a subject thread."

That suits me fine, as I said I have no problem putting in my ID and password over and over again. It's what I'm used to, and it would be just as acceptable to still be able to do that with comments about a page.

"Make sure you can accept cookies from this site."

The ability to block cookies has been around for over a decade and over that time increasing number ofg internet users, have adopted a policy of rejecting all cookies. It is a backward step to remove a syatem not requiring cookies, and while I can see the advantages to your offering an alternative system for people who are still afccepting them it sghoukd be just that - an alternative along the more widely functioning existing system. I would suggest displaying the "sign in" page only when a user selects it directly, and otherwise assuming that they are still using the tried and tested system of entering details for each comment being added - or edited, something else that I cannot do with any of my existing comments or messages. There are bound to be other contributors in my situation; there are certainly others who have not posted comments recently.

I would appreciate the views of CVP editors generally on this matter.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 01:19 AM UTC:
Game Courier is now working with Internet Explorer. There was a bit of
JavaScript that wasn't working in Internet Explorer. So I did some browser
detection in PHP and replaced the offending JavaScript with VBScript in
Internet Explorer. I also rewrote the code to show the message with an
alert (JavaScript) or a message box (VBScript) instead of writing it to the
screen. It's a message that shows up only on your first move of a game.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 12:16 AM UTC:
I have fixed the rendering of boards with CSS, so that I can use the
DOCTYPE that lets the menus work right in Internet Explorer. I just had to
specify the the units used for the width and height of the container DIV.
But this hasn't solved the problem of some content not showing up with
Internet Explorer. I may experiment with a copy of the source code and see
if something works. In the meantime, there are better browsers than
Internet Explorer, and links to some will appear in Game Courier is you're
using Internet Explorer.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 10:49 PM UTC:
Carlos,

I have fixed the menus on the pages you listed by adding a DOCTYPE to some
and by changing it for some. But the problem you describe with Game Courier
is still persisting. I looked at the source code, and it is all there. The
problem is that Internet Explorer is not showing all of it. So far it is a
mystery as to what is happening. Also, I had to switch Game Courier back to
the old DOCTYPE, because the newer DOCTYPE messes up how it displays boards
in CSS. Until I can resolve these problems with Internet Explorer 8, I
recommend that you use Firefox or Chrome. Both are better than Internet
Explorer, and if you're using Windows XP, both are more up-to-date than
IE8, which is simply the latest version of IE you can use with XP but not
actually the latest version of IE.

Carlos Cetina wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 10:02 PM UTC:
I'm using regularly Internet Explorer version 8.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 09:30 PM UTC:
Larry and Carlos,

What browser are each of you using, and what version of that browser?

Larry Smith wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 07:44 PM UTC:
Don't know if this has been pointed out, or whether this is a good spot to
do so, but ...

I've noticed that the drop-down menu appears and stays on several pages,
without having run the mouse over the Chess Variants logo. In fact, it does
so at the Comments page.

This also blocks the view on many other pages, making it difficult to read
some.

Probably just a simply initialization error in HTML. I could go look for
it, but I'm getting old and find I don't really have time for the small
stuff. ;)

Carlos Cetina wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 07:05 PM UTC:
In the three cases mentioned the pages are incomplete. It appears only the
board to the left side; above side the “play.chessvariants.org” logo
joined to the banner promoting Game Courier; below the board the “Click
here to view, print or download the image shown above” link; that’s
all. There are no buttons nor boxes nor nothing else.

I suspect this is relationed with the fact that I have none registered
email address since when I launch an Open or Personal Invitation the pages
are similarly incomplete and at the bottom say: “Although you are a
registered member of chessvariants.org, you have not provided us with an
email address for you. You cannot use this script to play games by email
until we have an email address on record for you.”

Now then, the other problem I have is that on the
"http://www.chessvariants.org/login/change_email.php" page, appears
deployed “the chessvariants.org” menu  covering the box in which one
have to write the new address.

That "phenomenon" also occur in many other pages of this website such as
- http://www.chessvariants.org/onthese.html
- http://www.chessvariants.org/index/whatsnew.php
- http://www.chessvariants.org/alphabet.html
- http://www.chessvariants.org/help.html
- http://www.chessvariants.org/onthese/award.html
- http://www.chessvariants.org/rindex.html
- http://www.chessvariants.org/index/listcomments.php?sortbydate=1

And in all and each of the GC's logs when I do click on them either as
visitor or as user.
I do not think this is because the computer I use since I access the
internet from various cyber cafes. What do you think?

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 12:00 PM UTC:
I have fixed a bug in the login function that would stop new sessions from
being created. I replaced "session_destroy(); session_start();" with
"$_SESSION = array()". This clears the contents of the session without
trying to start a new one, which may be undoable once content appears on
the webpage, because it may involve changing the value of a cookie.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 11:20 AM UTC:
Those links have been moved to the menus in the header. Most are in the
left menu in its Game Courier submenu, and "Your Games" can be found by
hovering over your name in the upper right corner when you are signed in.

M Winther wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 08:29 AM UTC:
The header in Game Courier is gone (where you could click on 'Rules',
etc.
/Mats

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 12:48 AM UTC:
There is a new procedure for changing your email address. To change your
email address, click the Change Email link at the bottom of the page. This
will send an email message to you, which you must respond to to verify your
new email address.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 10:09 PM UTC:
I can preview moves in all the games you linked to. Are you unable to move
with the mouse? Or are you even unable to enter a move by writing its
notation? When you try to make a move, what happens?

Carlos Cetina wrote on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 09:58 PM UTC:
I'm unable to even preview a move. The following URLs link to the pages such I see them by using my password:

fergus-cvgameroom-2012-116-101

mgawalangmagawa-cvgameroom-2012-113-540

mgawalangmagawa-cvgameroom-2012-113-580

Regarding the "Person Information page" issue, you are right: I wrote the URL wrong. But I have another problem that I will explain tomorrow.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 01:07 PM UTC:
Since subject threads are limited to registered members, you aren't given
the three login options when posting to them, and it still functions like
it used to before. Here is the difference in what is happening. When you
post to a subject thread, it consults the login function directly to
determine whether you can post. This function will check that you have
entered the correct password for your userid, and it will create a session
for you. But whether or not that session stays around will not affect
whether you get to post your comment to a subject thread. But when you try
to comment on a page, you are given three options, and since some of these
options require verification with an external site, you are required to
login before you post. If you sign in as a member, it does not use the
login function but instead brings you to login/cvplogin.php, where it
creates a session for you. To check whether you can post your comment, the
session it has created must be active. If you are blocking cookies, it may
be unable to tell which session is yours, because it uses a cookie to
identify your session. Make sure you can accept cookies from this site. If
you are accepting cookies from this site, and it is still not working, let
me know, and I will see if something else might be the problem.

Charles Gilman wrote on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 06:07 AM UTC:
Thanks for fixing Ecumenical Chess. I will check (npi) what other pages I am having problems with.

"Since you signed in to post this message, it's not that your every attempt to sign in is failing. The problem was with the page for commenting on items, and it is now fixed."

I noticed this sentence only as I was posting my last message to this thread, and you appear to have misunderstood what I was reporting. The problem that I have been having is not being able to get past the page that says "You must sign in before you can post a comment. You have three options for signing in." when I click to post a comment on a variant or article. None of the options work for me. I do not get this page when I try posting to a thread, and so can post successfuly. I do still get it when I try posting a comment on a page - and still cannot get past it (I tried and failed again just bedore posting this). When I try my registered ID and password I just get asked to sign in all over again. When I try signing in anonymously I get "The reCAPTCHA wasn't entered correctly. Go back and try it again.(reCAPTCHA said: incorrect-captcha-sol)" I do not have a problem with entering my ID and password every time I comment, but I have a big problem with not being able to reply directly to specific comments.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 10:41 PM UTC:
Your PersonID is CarlosCetina, not sissa. The latter is your UserID. You
will find the correct link to your Person Information page, which uses your
PersonID, to the left of the message you left, linked to your name.

Game Courier wants your UserID, which is sissa. When I posed as you to Game
Courier, I could move in each of the games you listed. Since I don't have
your password, I could not verify and send moves, but I could make moves
and preview them. In a test game between fergus and duniho, I tried to move
as duniho, and I'm being told that I must be signed in to move even though
the previous screen tells me I am signed in as duniho. [EDIT: I got it to work before fixing anything. So I'm not sure what the problem was there.]

What is the specific nature of your problem? Can you preview but not send a move? Or are you unable to even preview a move?

Note that the URLs you gave do not include your UserID. These URLs are just for viewing the game and will not let you move from them. Your UserID needs to be included in the link before you can move. You will find this link under your name when you enter your UserID on the Logs page.

Carlos Cetina wrote on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 09:49 PM UTC:
Neither can move in fergus-cvgameroom-2012-116-101

Carlos Cetina wrote on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 09:44 PM UTC:
I cannot move in the logs
1) mgawalangmagawa-cvgameroom-2012-113-540
2)mgawalangmagawa-cvgameroom-2012-113-580
because the pages are incomplete.

Fergus: could you please fix it?

By other part, in my Person Information page I cannot edit my email address ([email protected]) because there is a sort of lock.

David Howe: could you please fix it?

Thanks in advance for both!


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