[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Earliest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Single Comment Bishogi. An attempt to take the FIDE army further towards Shogi than Chessgi does. (8x8, Cells: 64) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Charles Gilman wrote on 2004-09-23 UTCAgain I was guilty of too much shorthand. The 9x9 description on the Index pages suggests that two Messrs. Howe have found it confusing! The board is 8x8 with only one Queen aside, but I compare the Queen to the Goldgeneral in that (1) it is on the 4th file in, (2) it is has the greatest long-term unperomoted strength on the back rank, (3) it is a Ferz substitute among 8-file arrays just as the Goldgeneral is among 9-file ones. The Pawns are on the second rank, because as I say, there is 'no middle rank', not even an empty one. The statement that players can use a novelty FIDE Chess set or, if they can manage to ignore the usual meanings, a Shogi set 'minus the four surplus pieces' does make it clear tha only sixteen pieces aside are required. The idea of a 9x9 version of Bishogi is an interesting one, but it would have a problem of Bishops starting on the same colour. Mind you, the fact that promotion and/or reintroduction could overcome that is even more in keeping with Shogi itself... Perhaps the confusion comes from the 'further variants' section. Sekishogi is another 8x8 varint, but Southwark Shogi is 9x9. It may have been sloppy to throw that in with the others, but I felt that it was a bit too frivolous to have a page of its own.