[ Help | Earliest Comments | Latest Comments ][ List All Subjects of Discussion | Create New Subject of Discussion ][ List Earliest Comments Only For Pages | Games | Rated Pages | Rated Games | Subjects of Discussion ]Single Comment Heian-Dai Shogi - Early Great Shogi. Early Great Shogi. (13x13, Cells: 169) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Anonymous wrote on 2010-04-26 UTCI can't believe that it's the earliest form of Shogi! I always was thinking that first Shogi is like modern 9x9, but on 8x8 and without 'rook' and 'bishop', because it looks like other forms of chess, mostly Thai game 'Makrook' (and, maybe, pawn capture from Chinese or Korean chess): silver general moves exactly as bishop in Makrook, Shogi lance and knight are 'normal' knight and rook, but both moves only forward, only new piece is gold general, who replaced the ferz, and promotion rules looks like promotion in Makrook (promotion zone is last 3 ranks, and pawns promotes to piece, wich replaced ferz)! Or Shogi, wich we know is only Shogi variant, based on chess? If somebody knows it, please, explain me!