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Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]It seems MShonnoshuka has not been fully deleted. When I changed Seireigi's name from Shuka, I tried to delete MShonnoshuka, but it seems that the page hasn't been fully deleted (probably because I clicked "Delete This Submission" too quickly). The record of it is still in the database, but the database thinks it has been deleted, as shown below. I would like this record to be fully deleted so it doesn't cause problems in the future.
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Tenjiku Shogi. Fire Demons burn surrounding enemies, Generals capture jumping many pieces. (16x16, Cells: 256) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Here's an Interactive Diagram for Tenjiku Shogi (following Wikipedia/CVP ruleset) with the new ruleset used on Wikipedia, which was edited to remove the rule against capturing royalty via range-jump. The GC preset has been updated as well.
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royal=44
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dog:D:bFfW:Dog:e6,l6
iron general:I:fFfW:IronGeneral:d1,m1
copper general:C:fFvW:CopperGeneral:e1,l1
silver general:S:FfW:SilverGeneral:f1,k1
ferocious leopard:FL:FvW:FerociousLeopard:c1,n1
gold general:G:WfF:GoldGeneral:g1,j1
blind tiger:BT:FsbW:BlindTiger:f2,k2
drunk elephant:DE:FsfW:DrunkenElephant:i1
knight:N:fN:Knight:b1,o1
kirin:KY:FD:Kyrin:g2
phoenix:PH:WA:Phoenix:j2
lance:L:fR:Lance:a1,p1
reverse chariot:RV:vR:ReverseChariot:a2,p2
side mover:SM:vWsR:SideMover:a4,p4
vertical mover:VM:sWvR:VerticalMover:b4,o4
side soldier:SS:bWsRfW2:SideSoldier:a3,p3
vertical soldier:VS:bWfRsW2:VerticalSoldier:b3,o3
bishop:B:B:Bishop:c3,n3
rook:R:R:Rook:c4,n4
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dragon king:DK:RF:DragonKing:e3,l3
horned falcon:HF:BsbRfWfDfcavWfabW:HornedFalcon:d4,m4
soaring eagle:SE:RbBfFfAfcavFfabF:SoaringEagle:e4,l4
lion:LN:KNADcaKmcabK:Lion:h2
queen:Q:Q:FreeKing:i2
bishop general:BG:B(paf)0cB:BishopGeneral:f4,k4
rook general:RG:R(paf)0cR:RookGeneral:g4,j4
chariot soldier:CS:BvRsW2:ChariotSoldier:c2,d2,m2,n2
water buffalo:WB:BsRvW2:WaterBuffalo:f3,k3
free eagle:FE:QADcaFmcabF:FreeEagle:i3
lion hawk:LH:BWNADcaKmcabK:LionHawk:h3
vice general:VG:B(paf)0cB(a)2KabK:ViceGeneral:i4
great general:GG:Q(paf)0cQ:GreatGeneral:h4
value=3500
king:K:K:King:h1
tokin:+P:WfF:PawnP:
multi general:+D:bBfR:DogP:
vertical soldier:+I:bWfRsW2:IronGeneralP:
side mover:+C:vWsR:CopperGeneralP:
vertical mover:+S:sWvR:SilverGeneralP:
bishop:+FL:B:FerociousLeopardP:
rook:+G:R:GoldGeneralP:
flying stag:+BT:FsWvR:BlindTigerP:
prince:+DE:K:DrunkenElephantP:
side soldier:+N:bWsRfW2:KnightP:
lion:+KY:KNADcaKmcabK:KyrinP:
queen:+PH:Q:PhoenixP:
white horse:+L:fBvR:Lance:
whale:+RV:bBvR:ReverseChariotP:
free boar:+SM:BsR:SideMoverP:
flying ox:+VM:BvR:VerticalMoverP:
water buffalo:+SS:BsRvW2:SideSoldierP:
chariot soldier:+VS:BvRsW2:VerticalSoldierP:
dragon horse:+B:BW:BishopP:
dragon king:+R:RF:RookP:
horned falcon:+DH:BsbRfWfDfcavWfabW:DragonHorseP:
soaring eagle:+DK:RbBfFfAfcavFfabF:DragonKingP:
bishop general:+HF:B(paf)0cB:HornedFalconP:
rook general:+SE:R(paf)0cR:SoaringEagleP:
lion hawk:+LN:BWNADcaKmcabK:LionP:
free eagle:+Q:QADcaFmcabF:FreeKingP:
vice general:+BG:B(paf)0cB(a)2KabK:BishopGeneralP:
great general:+RG:Q(paf)0cQ:RookGeneralP:
value=3500
heavenly tetrarch:+CS:jvhQjsQ3cabK:ChariotSoldierP:
fire demon:+WB:shQ(a)2KabK:WaterBuffaloP:
fire demon:FD:shQ(a)2KabK:FireDemon:g3,j3
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Dai Seireigi. Hidden Large variant of Seireigi on an 12x12 board, akin to a version of Chu Shogi playable with drops. (12x12, Cells: 144) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Since this comment is for a page that has not been published yet, you must be signed in to read it.
Chu Shogi. 
Historic Japanese favorite, featuring a multi-capturing Lion. (12x12, Cells: 144) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]I have finalized Dai Seireigi. You may need to view this comment by itself for it to show.
Yonin Seireigi. Hidden Four-player variant of Seireigi based on Yonin Shogi. (9x9, Cells: 81) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Since this comment is for a page that has not been published yet, you must be signed in to read it.
Chu Shogi. Historic Japanese favorite, featuring a multi-capturing Lion. (12x12, Cells: 144) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]I found another solution for the placeholders - using the 2-step limited range move found in Dai Shogi. With this, I gave the new pieces new moves and tweaked some names and moves a bit, and problem solved. I also finished the first draft for the promotions. The only thing I am not sure about is the usefulness of the hit-and-run ability. A diagram of the new version has been added below. You may need to view this comment by itself for it to show.
Home page of The Chess Variant Pages. Homepage of The Chess Variant Pages.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating] Chu Shogi. Historic Japanese favorite, featuring a multi-capturing Lion. (12x12, Cells: 144) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]This looks good. You could remove the Side Movers as they make the game too defensive, and the Coppers that promote to them at the same time. Lances that promote to Great Tigers cover at least the same movement capability as Side Movers.
The majority of the promotions won't be the same as in Chu Shogi, and this includes the Copper Generals, which would promote to a Silver General that can also jump to the second square orthogonally sideways or forward, or diagonally forward.
As it is now, the Side and Vertical movers can't move backward at all to try and ensure that they don't add too much to defense, but the sideways slide of the side movers may indeed be a problem. The question now is, what to replace them with?
The Drunk Elephant could also be removed as its promotion to Crown Prince would drag the game out needlessly.
I wasn't planning on having a piece that promoted to another royal, I can simply have the elephant (or its equivalent) not promote to begin with or make its promotion non-royal.
Knights could move to where the Coppers are, allowing them to move freely in the opening.
There is a defender (the Donkey). It works together with the Knight to protect the outer pawns from a distance, hence why the Knight is placed where it is. Like the current Side and Vertical Movers, the Donkey one of the pieces with no match in the Mnemonic piece directory for its Dai Seireigi move, and instead is being approximated, hence why you didn't see it initially.
I'm guessing that's what happens when you use the drop rule with a game that wasn't designed for it. I'm attempting to solve this in Dai Seireigi by using the same forward bias found in regular Shogi.
Here's a prototype of what I have so far (You may need to view this comment by itself for the diagram to show, and some of the mnemonics are close approximations of the actual piece). Only the eight most valuable pieces are not subject to this forward bias, and the Falcon and Eagle (promoted Horse and Dragon) will be subject to it as well.
The promotions are not included, as I haven't sorted that out yet, except that the King, Lion, and Queen do not promote, pieces found in normal Seireigi promote as they do in that game, and that I plan on adding Korean-style hopping move (without restrictions on what it can do) for a few of these promotions.
I am thinking about doing something similar with a game called Dai Seireigi, which is basically Chu Shogi, but with drops and an altered piece/moveset roster to account for the drop rule. This includes replacing the Lion power with a "hit-and-run" ability that allows a piece to move or capture on a square and then move without capturing to a square adjacent to . This allows pieces with the ability to capture a piece in a certain direction and then maneuver into place to check the enemy King, while also not being too overpowered for the drop rule.
The Dai Seireigi Lion would have the hit-and-run ability in all directions, and a two-step area move, similar to that of the Tenjiku Shogi Fire TSA Lion Hawk, but without the ability to return to its starting square (KmcamKaK).
However, I have an important question regarding anti-trading rules. Since in a game with drops no piece ever goes entirely out of play, would you need an anti-trading rule in such a game?
Seireigi. Hidden Variant of standard Shogi with promotable Gold Generals, as well as more varied and animalistic promotions. (9x9, Cells: 81) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Since this comment is for a page that has not been published yet, you must be signed in to read it.
Interactive diagrams. Diagrams that interactively show piece moves.[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]Thanks.
I also noticed another bug where the King seems to be deleting Pawns to its bottom-right (from white's perspective) after moving to its destination when navigating through the game. For example, in the previous comment's diagram, 1. Ke9e8 will delete the Pawn on f7, and 1. Ke1e4 will delete the pawn on f3 after clicking < and then >|.
I noticed a bug affecting drops in betzaNew.js. If you use the navigation bar to go through the game, dropped pieces will turn into empty spaces.
Here's an example from Seireigi: 1. c4 g6 2. Bxh8+ Sxh8 3. [email protected]
Click '<' and then '>|'. The captured Bishop will be dropped on c3 and then turn into an empty space.
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