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Eric Greenwood wrote on Fri, Feb 15, 2008 08:52 PM UTC:

Thanks, Joe!

I'll give this game a shot-Matthew Vallee has a challenge up.

Actually, Rennchess has a variant that uses a 14x12 board, which will allow increased movement behind the lines. Perhaps this is similar to what Cataclysm is trying to achieve...hmmm.

To comment on the opposing viewpoints expressed here....

I happen to agree w/ you, Joe-let the Creativity flow!
WHo among us is qualified to say which 50, or 100, or even 1000, games is 'worthy' to be played? Every game has appeal to at least ONE person! :)Saying that a game is unworthy in comparison to another one is judgemental in the extreme! I don't like the Majority of games out there, But isn't that just MY taste in games?

I have created quite a few chess variant games. A few are very good (some even award-winners!), some are just good, some are ok, and a few are stinkers! However, learning an artistic craft like Game Designing means not everything will be great every time. Take what is good and leave the rest alone-don't disparage someone else's efforts!

OK, off the soapbox (for now)......

Is Jeremy still here and playing?

Eric

P.S. I'm looking for players for my Courier Chess, Mod 5. I believe I have found THE best update of historical Courier Chess, one that keeps the same ideas, flow of play, and strategic scope that the Original game had for Medieval players. Anyone interested, please challenge!

(btw, it took 5 tries to finally get it right. Perfection is rarely achieved on the first try... ;} )

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Cataclysm. Large board game with short-range pieces designed to be dramatic without being overly complicated or dragging on too long. (12x16, Cells: 192)

💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Sat, Mar 30, 2019 06:47 PM UTC:

I'm thinking of making a change to make games a little shorter. I need to test it, but I am inclined to change the pawns to fast pawns (pawns can make a double-step, subject to en passant from anywhere.) This change was suggested by John Davis.

If I did this, I would also remove the rule that a player can move two different unmoved pawns a single space (I like this rule, but it makes the game hard to program because it becomes a multi-move variant.)

Kevin Pacey wrote on Thu, Mar 1, 2018 07:14 AM UTC:Good ★★★★

Several interesting piece types in this game. Can well-played games of it be reasonably short on average? Time will tell, but I suspect most such games won't go past 100 full moves, good for such a large board.

V. Reinhart wrote on Thu, Apr 6, 2017 07:19 PM UTC:

Thanks Greg,

I just wanted to make sure I understood the defintion of mirror symmetry.

I definitely think multiple moves per turn is something to continue exploring (not necessarily in chess engines, but in the games).

I've thought about adding the feature to Trappist-1 (version of Chess on an Infinite Plane). It will help correspondence games go faster when only one move is played per day. Of course it also changes the strategy. The opening and mid-game will go-by faster, and then the final "clash" can be much more damaging.

Theres are some game notations on this site with double-moves, but all are very short (like 10-15 moves). But with a large format game I think it can work really well, and with Cataclysm, using it for selective pieces (just pawns) is a great idea.:)

💡📝Greg Strong wrote on Thu, Apr 6, 2017 01:05 AM UTC:

Thank you for the feedback and excellent rating. And thank you for pointing out the error. I changed the starting array a long time ago to remove a couple of pieces and speed development. At the time, I apparently went back to mirror symmetry. With this array, it probably doesn't make any difference. There was more asymmetry before, but now there is little point in just swapping one king and queen, so I removed that paragraph from the description.

ChessV does not yet play Cataclysm. I will certainly want to add it and will do so at some point. It's not trivial, though, because of the rule allowing you to move two different unmoved pawns one space. That's an important rule I don't want to drop. ChessV does now support a couple of double-move variants, so it can be done, but will require some work. In this game, making two moves is rare, and the second move is optional, so I'd need some sort of user-interface for passing.

V. Reinhart wrote on Wed, Apr 5, 2017 02:29 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

In the notes to this game, it says this game has rotational symmetry rather than mirror symmetry. That does not appear correct based on the setup diagram. Even the king and queen face each other, each sharing the same file as in classical chess. Was the graphic updated, or am I missing something?

It does look like an excellent large-format variant. Does anyone know if ChessV plays it (and if so, how well)?

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