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Ideal Values and Practical Values (part 3)

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7 Nov 2001 Excellent A pleasing, if unsurprising result: when writing the page for V.R. Parton's Dabbabante Chess, I could see by inspection that the Dabbabante -- a (0,2) + (0,4) + (0,6) + (0,8) leaper -- had an ideal value on a 10x10 board of 8. When I applied your equation, I found:

The ideal value of an (0,2) leaper on a 10x10 board is 3.2;
The ideal value of an (0,4) leaper on a 10x10 board is 2.4;
The ideal value of an (0,6) leaper on a 10x10 board is 1.6;
The ideal value of an (0,8) leaper on a 10x10 board is 0.8;
Which adds up, of course to 8.0. Nice!
PBA

28 Oct 2001 None
Intuitive but not obvious. The estimates of what the multipliers "should be" came to me intuitively as I was writing and as I was deeply concentrated on this problem. They felt right as interpolations of the observed effects on the known strengths of the NN, R, and B.
I jumped to conclusion. (Cue politically incorrect "Confucius say" joke).
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gnohmon

27 Oct 2001 None You could say, as the math professors did in college, "It is intuitively obvious that ...". - JCL

26 Oct 2001 None When I say "the multiplier for Dabbabbabbarider should be", I omit any justification for why it should be.
Should perhaps say "Because its every step covers two squares and because its basic movement is Rookwise, I have the interpolative intuition the the multipier (and so forth)".
Should say it's a wild guess that feels right.

26 Oct 2001 None The Nutty Knights' honor has been restored.
PBA

19 Oct 2001 None
Oh, I just put that error in there to see if anybody was paying attention. Did you know that I am also the inventor of the invisible smiley?
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gnohmon

19 Oct 2001 Excellent One minor point about Avian Airforce match-ups: the Nutty Knights actually do defend b7 -- the Forfnifurlrurking on d8 should cover it with a forward Knight's move.

17 Oct 2001 None OK. For each article in this series, I have linked the first reference in that article to a piece not found in the usual Western Chess game to the Piececlopedia article for it. Linking all of them would have made the articles into seas of links, which can be distracting.
". . . Was I Wazir? I was!"
PBA

17 Oct 2001 None Would it be possible to link each mention of an exotic piece (Wazir, Ferz, etc) to its definition in the Piecelopedia?

17 Oct 2001 None The Chess Variant Pages' own Piececlopedia contains definitions of all the basic pieces referenced in these articles.
PBA

17 Oct 2001 Good Concerning the entire series, most of us don't play Chess with the Wazir, Ferz, Alfil, or Dabaa. It would be easier to follow if Mr. Betza defined these more frequently.

Date	Rating	Comment
7 Nov 2001	Excellent	A pleasing, if unsurprising result: when writing the page for V.R. Parton's Dabbabante Chess, I could see by inspection that the Dabbabante -- a (0,2) + (0,4) + (0,6) + (0,8) leaper -- had an ideal value on a 10x10 board of 8. When I applied your equation, I found: The ideal value of an (0,2) leaper on a 10x10 board is 3.2; The ideal value of an (0,4) leaper on a 10x10 board is 2.4; The ideal value of an (0,6) leaper on a 10x10 board is 1.6; The ideal value of an (0,8) leaper on a 10x10 board is 0.8; Which adds up, of course to 8.0. Nice! PBA
28 Oct 2001	None	Intuitive but not obvious. The estimates of what the multipliers "should be" came to me intuitively as I was writing and as I was deeply concentrated on this problem. They felt right as interpolations of the observed effects on the known strengths of the NN, R, and B. I jumped to conclusion. (Cue politically incorrect "Confucius say" joke). -- gnohmon
27 Oct 2001	None	You could say, as the math professors did in college, "It is intuitively obvious that ...". - JCL
26 Oct 2001	None	When I say "the multiplier for Dabbabbabbarider should be", I omit any justification for why it should be. Should perhaps say "Because its every step covers two squares and because its basic movement is Rookwise, I have the interpolative intuition the the multipier (and so forth)". Should say it's a wild guess that feels right.
26 Oct 2001	None	The Nutty Knights' honor has been restored. PBA
19 Oct 2001	None	Oh, I just put that error in there to see if anybody was paying attention. Did you know that I am also the inventor of the invisible smiley? -- gnohmon
19 Oct 2001	Excellent	One minor point about Avian Airforce match-ups: the Nutty Knights actually do defend b7 -- the Forfnifurlrurking on d8 should cover it with a forward Knight's move.
17 Oct 2001	None	OK. For each article in this series, I have linked the first reference in that article to a piece not found in the usual Western Chess game to the Piececlopedia article for it. Linking all of them would have made the articles into seas of links, which can be distracting. ". . . Was I Wazir? I was!" PBA
17 Oct 2001	None	Would it be possible to link each mention of an exotic piece (Wazir, Ferz, etc) to its definition in the Piecelopedia?
17 Oct 2001	None	The Chess Variant Pages' own Piececlopedia contains definitions of all the basic pieces referenced in these articles. PBA
17 Oct 2001	Good	Concerning the entire series, most of us don't play Chess with the Wazir, Ferz, Alfil, or Dabaa. It would be easier to follow if Mr. Betza defined these more frequently.

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Ratings and Comments for:Ideal Values and Practical Values (part 3)

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Ideal Values and Practical Values (part 3)